'Light Punching Fraud' demolishes Chisora ... Usyk next

catchwtboxing · Apr 9, 2026

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Dubblechin said: ↑

Chris Byrd has been eligible for the International Boxing Hall of Fame since 2014 (12 years and counting). He's not even on the ballot.

So, it doesn't look good for him. You either get in the first year or so after you are eligible, or you get stuck in limbo. If you don't even make the ballot after a dozen years ... it's going to take some politicking to even get your name out there.

Also, Vitali Klitschko and Evander Holyfield both suffered what are termed in the medical profession as catastrophic shoulder injuries which required surgeries to repair. Vitali quit in his corner because of the injury. Holyfield was injured in the second round and fought on ... but the fight was already lost.

Both surgeries and injuries were widely reported.
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They suffered their injuries swinging at Byrd. Those fights count.

Dynamicpuncher · Apr 10, 2026

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I didn't respond for many days, until I saw the fight myself. I reserved judgement until I saw it. But during that time, I read all the nonsensical threads and hundreds upon hundreds of posts bashing Wilder.

It was a decent showing. Even if you had it close - 7 to 5 in rounds let's say - without the ludicrous and suspect calls of the ref, Wilder wins by a extremely large margin in points.

Wilder caused what should've been a standing eight in the third (the ref prevented Wilder from finishing an injured Chisora, stopping Wilder while he was punching to talk to Chisora for a while ... turns out Chisora got hit hard) ...Wilder dropped Chisora with a punch in the fifth ...he dropped him with a punch in the seventh, and Chisora pulled Wilder down with him ... Wilder dropped Chisora twice in the eighth, Wilder dropped him again in the 11th ...

Five different rounds ... what should've been five knockdowns scored and one standing eight ... so a 115-113 fight goes from that to 115-108 or 115-107 ... in any other arena in any other country.

All that even LEAVING OUT the fact of the Chisora cornerman running into the ring ... which is a DQ in England ... or at minimum a point deduction ...

Leaving out Chisora's brutal punch on Wilder after the bell ... again, normally warranting a point deduction.

Leaving out Chisora's team pushing him back into the ring in the eighth ... and the REF himself incredibly pulling Chisora back in the ring the second time he got punched out in the eighth.

Instead, despite THAT AVALANCHE OF POINT DEDUCTIONS or actual STOPPAGES anywhere else ...

That corrupt POS referee only called ALL THAT CARNAGE two knockdowns in Wilder's favor ... and two POINTS REMOVED from Wilder.

After each knockdown that he couldn't deny and HAD NO OPTION BUT TO COUNT ... he immediately, seconds later, took the same points from Wilder. Without missing a beat.

The ref refused to count the second knockdown in the eighth and instead took a point from Wilder ... and, when Chisora got up in the 11th, immediately ruled a slip by Wilder a knockdown.

Effectively turning the scoring of the fight on its head.

Yet, what was clearly a debacle by the Ref ... and a performance by Wilder that showed him keeping his cool, boxing, and pounding Chisora into the floor no less than five times, cutting his eye, beating him to a swollen pulp ...

We HAD a ton of guys on this board who picked Wilder to lose and didn't even see how he could finish against the #2 ranked IBF contender .. ignoring it all and saying Wilder barely won.

Wilder knocked Chisora down with punches more than Fury, Usyk, Klitschko, Kabayel, Joyce, Price, Takam, Helenius, Pulev etc. all did in a dozen fights COMBINED.

Good thing he did. Because, otherwise. he'd have lost. The FIX was in.

As for the DEMOLISHED line ... if Chisora floored Wilder five times and had Wilder hurt and calling for a time out in the third ... how do you think the people rooting for him would've reacted?

You think I'm over the top. If Chisora dropped Wilder five times and caused a standing eight, would Chisora's fans call that a DEMOLITION or would his fans say Derek barely won?

Even one of those occurrences in a round in another fight would've had people arguing for a week about it.

But that fight last Saturday had those happening round after round after round after round ... so many, in fact, that it seems many of you just found it to be too much and IGNORED THEM ALL.

Hell, even typing all of them turns these posts into a book.

That fight, fought exactly as it was, would've been a blowout points win by Wilder ... or a stoppage win.

But he did BARELY won on the cards because of one corrupt ref and one corrupt judge.

In truth, Wilder beat the hell out him. One forum member that night, one of the few in the round-by-round thread seemingly watching it with open eyes, compared it to the Baer-Carnera demolition.

IT was that kind of beatdown.
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I didn't see it that way and nor did pretty much everyone else.

Wilder clearly won by a few points no debate.

Yeah the referee definitely made some questionable calls.

But it was still a low quality fight in terms of skills and finesse.

Plenty of heart shown ? Absolutely.

But both men are in their 40s and both fighters looked a long way past their best.

If I was Wilder I'd look to cash out on the Joshua fight who seems to be lacking confidence and is also past his prime.

I think the current version of Joshua is a winnable fight for Wilder.

Other than that ? If Wilder can't get the Joshua fight I'd prefer he just retire in all honestly.

He hasn't looked the same fighter for a good 4 years now.

TowelThrower · Apr 11, 2026

Once devastating puncher who is past his best post Fury wars and doesn't seem to have the same threat, belief or killer instinct goes life and death with ancient ten plus loss Chisora. He showed he's still tough as **** and resilient and can still navigate a reasonable test but certainly didn't destroy anything in there, they both didn't decorate themselves in glory.

Dagnaldinho · Apr 11, 2026

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Hope everyone had a great holiday. I just got the chance to watch the fight last night, after spending the weekend reading the round-by-rounds and such.

Couple of points.

THE BIG UNDERDOG WINS HANDILY

Wilder was nearly a 3-1 underdog. (If you bet $100 you won nearly $300).

Once again, Wilder was giving up 40 pounds against the #2 IBF contender Chisora (no one was rated ahead of him) who was hoping to end his career with the best winning streak of it (already securing wins over Joyce and Wallin.)

Wilder entered the ring first for only the third time in his career, on Chisora’s home turf. British sportsmen and celebrities were out in force to celebrate.

Chisora entered with one British referee (Mark Bates) and one British judge (Phil Edwards) already SECURELY in his back pocket, all but guaranteeing him a win in his 50th pro fight.

Yet, Wilder proved, yet again, to be the turd in the British punchbowl and spoiled the party.

Wilder won the fight cleanly, being the classic boxer to Chisora's oafish, wild swinging, tackling, fouling, windmilling mess. And with the knockdowns, Wilder should’ve dominated the cards.

THE GUY WITH ‘NO POWER’ BOUNCES CHISORA ALL OVER THE RING

For a guy who some here said never had any power, Wilder scored at least FIVE knockdowns in the fight – one in the fifth round, one in the seventh (when Chisora grabbed Wilder and pulled him down with him as he fell to the floor), two in the eighth and one in the eleventh.

There was also a moment in round three where Chisora essentially called time and the referee stopped the action as Wilder was beginning to tee off on Chisora, which was never explained, and no standing eight was administered.. (Apparently, Chisora just got punched hard in the eye … nothing was ever said about it being anything more.)

However, despite five knockdowns and one “break” given to Chisora … bizarrely, the referee only counted TWO of the five knockdowns.

Still, Chisora couldn’t stay off the floor. Chisora also fell down in the second and in the fifth (in the middle of the ring).

Someone in the round by round here described it as Baer-Carnera, and that wasn’t far off. I think Chisora went down or called time a total of eight times over 12 rounds.

Not bad for a guy (Wilder) who people here still say can’t punch. (When was Chisora down eight times against someone else?)

THE REFEREE AND THE SCORING WAS ATROCIOUS

Both times Wilder scored a knockdown that the referee actually counted as a knockdown, the same referee immediately looked to take a point from Wilder, WHICH HE DID TWICE.

You can’t tell me it was just a coincidence Wilder happened to have a point deduction moments after scoring a knockdown.

The referee Bates also allowed Chisora’s corner to push him up to his feet after the first knockdown in round eight.

When Chisora collapsed a second time that round, the referee Bates ctually pulled Chisora into the ring (the referee pulled him back in).

And when Wilder scored a knockdown in the eleventh, it looked for all the world that the referee had no intention of calling that a knockdown either, except the ringside judge loudly began the count. Even then, the referee was talking to Chisora the whole time while he was down instead of counting. (And then, moments later, called a Wilder slip a knockdown.)

Chisora’s best round was the fourth, where he landed his own bombs, winding up and launching them from the floor almost, but Wilder took them all.

Wilder’s best non-knockdown rounds was the sixth, where he rocked Chisora multiple times and cut, only for the referee to again step in while he was punching to stop the action and push Wilder back.

THE SCORECARDS DEMONSTRATE THE FIX IN THE MAKING

In a typically close 7-5-type fight (115-113) with two knockdowns (that counted), the final score is typically 115-111.

A 7-5 fight with five knockdowns would’ve been 115-108. (Which this kinda felt like, given how many times Chisora went down in total. It reminded me of the chaos of the Tyson-Ruddock rematch a little, too.)

However, before the deductions, one judge had it 117-115 (or 5 Wilder/3 Chisora/4 even). And then with an extra two points off the Chisora knockdowns and the point deductions for Wilder, had it 115-113.

A second judge had it 117-113 (or 7 Wilder/3 Chisora/2 even) for Wilder before deductions, but with the two points removed from both guys left it 115-111.

And the third judge, Phile Edwards, somehow had it 117-114 Chisora (or 6 Chisora/3 Wilder/3 even), until the deductions brought it to 115-112 Chisora.

Pretty scandalous giving a guy whose been on the deck or called time out for injuries 8 TIMES in a 12-round fight a three-point winner.

FUTURE FIGHTS

Yet, despite being tackled by Chisora , punched flush and hard after the bell by Chisora after the eleventh, having points deducted in every round he scored a clean knockdown over Chisora by the ref, and one judge voting with his heart …

Even the announcers and British fans on the scene knew ... Wilder won the fight handily.

So, Deontay Wilder continues on.

We’ll see where Wilder is ranked by the IBF when the new ratings come out. Chisora was the IBF #2. Frank Sanchez and Richard Torrez were #3 and #4. Will Wilder jump up to #2? Or will he end up around #4 behind Sanchez and Torres?

A natural eliminator would be Wilder against the winner of that fight later this year.

That said, I believe the plan was for Usyk to take on a no-hoper until he saw the outcome of Wilder-Chisora.

With this win, and Usyk's upcoming win over the guy with 1 win as a boxer, Wilder-Usyk seems the more likely world title fight next.

Chisora was also the WBO#7 entering the fight, and Joshua is the WBO #4.

So, Wilder-Joshua for a high WBO Rating seems like another play. However, the way Joshua was jumping up and down celebrating Chisora and hoping Wilder lost (he and Hearn did that when Wilder fought Parker, too) just shows THEIR CARDS to me.

JOSHUA IS 'STILL' TERRIFIED OF WILDER

I remember when Buster Douglas upset Mike Tyson, and while everyone celebrated, the most depressed guy in the arena was Holyfield, even though he now had an easier champ to beat.

The way Joshua and Hearn get so HAPPY every time they are close to a Wilder fight and they think he might lose, IMO, shows how little they really want to face him.

I'm not kidding, or trying to be sarcastic, I really don't recall a boxer and a businessman in boxing celebrating the loss of a big-money fight like Joshua and Hearn do when that big money fight is with Wilder.

If Wilder shows up to watch a potential opponent, he always roots for that guy to win, not for the guy to lose so the fight is nixed.

It’s not like Joshua and Chisora are best buddies or anything.

Anyway, let's hope Wilder-Usyk happens next and happens this year. The excitement of these events only builds when the next big one comes sooner rather than later.

Nice to know that Wilder still has enough, even with a British FIX clearly in the works … To win convincingly.

OASIS RULES

Nice to see Noel. We saw Oasis at Soldier Field last summer. One of the best concerts ever.
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You wasted 2 hours of your life writing this absolute dribble and i wasted 5 minutes of mine reading it, guess we are both losers. Thanks for wasting both our time.

JohnThomas1 · Apr 13, 2026

@Greg Price99

Dubblechin · Apr 13, 2026

Dagnaldinho said: ↑

You wasted 2 hours of your life writing this absolute dribble and i wasted 5 minutes of mine reading it, guess we are both losers. Thanks for wasting both our time.
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You're welcome.

Greg Price99 · Apr 14, 2026

JohnThomas1 said: ↑

@Greg Price99
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Comedy gold mate.

Terrible fight between two shot fighters, neither of whom are in the top 20 anymore.

It will be funny if DB gets his claimed wish of Wilder fighting Usyk.

JohnThomas1 · Apr 14, 2026

Greg Price99 said: ↑

Comedy gold mate.

Terrible fight between two shot fighters, neither of whom are in the top 20 anymore.

It will be funny if DB gets his claimed wish of Wilder fighting Usyk.
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Or anyone half handy really lol

kriszhao · Apr 14, 2026

Dubblechin said: ↑

Brought you out of hibernation.

You haven't commented on a current fight since Crawford-Canelo last September.

Alot of talentless bums have fought in the last eight months.

I guess the answer to the questions : What would Wilder do if he traveled to a hostile territory, with a hostile ref, a hostile judge, a hostile crowd, giving up 40 pounds against a top-rated (#2) contender in the midst of a career-best win streak, after everyone decided he was shot and didn't have power anymore (if he ever did) ... has been answered.

He completely outboxes the guy, drops him seven or eight times, blows up the fix, and STILL WINS.

And he drags all the posters like you, who don't bother to post anymore, to roll out of the darkness to complain about it.

Wilder rules.
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didn't bother to read about you sucking off wilder as usual.

Dubblechin · Apr 14, 2026

Greg Price99 said: ↑

Comedy gold mate.

Terrible fight between two shot fighters, neither of whom are in the top 20 anymore.

It will be funny if DB gets his claimed wish of Wilder fighting Usyk.
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"Ban Bet Me, Dubblechin! Ban Bet Me!"

Every time you post in one of my threads, I'll take it as you saying, "Thank you for not having me banned, friend. I was a moron"

You're welcome.

Dubblechin · Apr 14, 2026

kriszhao said: ↑

didn't bother to read about you sucking off wilder as usual.
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Never heard of you. Or what a "usual" post from you is.

Babality · Apr 14, 2026

Wallin would be a good fight for Wilder next.

Greg Price99 · Apr 14, 2026

Dubblechin said: ↑

"Ban Bet Me, Dubblechin! Ban Bet Me!"

Every time you post in one of my threads, I'll take it as you saying, "Thank you for not having me banned, friend. I was a moron"

You're welcome.
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Fair enough, I called the result wrong.

I knew Chisora was obviously way passed his best, but I didn’t realise he was so desperately shot that Wilder would, er, "demolish" him.

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