Why is Vitali given a pass for not rematching Byrd ?

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You see it all the time people making threads about Lewis/Vitali saying Lewis ducked a rematch and etc.

    But yet I've always found it baffling that Vitali gets a pass for not fighting a rematch vs Byrd ?

    People like to make out "oh Vitali was dominating the fight, Byrd was lucky the rematch didn't need to happen.".

    But this is not actuallt true at all.

    A total of only 8 landed punches separated the two fighters and Byrd almost doubled Vitali's connect rate.

    I think people just watch highlights and look at boxrec seeing what the judges had it.

    The fight in actual fact was a tactical nip and tuck affair in which Byrd was never hurt once in the entire fight.

    He made Vitali miss alot of punches that I believe contributed to the injury to Vitali's shoulder.

    Byrd was coming on in the fight after the 5th round backing up Vitali landing good straight left hands.

    Vitali was also heavily criticised after this fight.

    So why wouldn't Vitali take a rematch vs a fighter who was a top 3 rated Heavyweight between the years Vitali was active in 2001-2004 before his semi retirement ?

    Who actually held a win against him and it would've been one of the stand out wins on Vitali's resume ?

    And he would be revenging a loss that alot of people criticised him for.

    I just find it amazing a prime Vitali gets a pass for not rematching Byrd.

    But yet a past his prime Lewis at the end of his career is not given the same treatment.
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali gets passes for a lot of things: very weak resume, not rematching Byrd, never beating the second best HW in the world and somehow some people see his effort against Lewis as a victory which is ridiculous. All because he had a chin and balls. Some casuals even say he was better than Wlad, with nothing to show for it.
     
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  3. leftsmoke

    leftsmoke Member Full Member

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    I remember Ring Magazine having Vitali at #1 after Lennox retired, Byrd at #2, Corrie Sanders at #3. I think they were just anxious to have a Ring Magazine heavyweight champion, so they used their "in special cases the new champ can be crowned by #1 fighting #3" clause. In my opinion they went too fast with this one, and Vitali never rematching Byrd is why I never considered him lineal.
     
  4. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali Lewis should probably be paused a little. Doubt it's happening anytime soon though.
     
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  5. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Vitali should definitely have rematched Byrd, around 2002, if Byrd was willing.

    But let us not forget Lewis also avoided fighting Byrd.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, the crowning of Vitali had a lot of sense at the time. If he didn't retire early, he probably would be seen as the lineal champion.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Lennox never rematched Vitali. I have no doubt Vitali would have smashed up Byrd in a rematch.

    But we're never gonna get to see it!
     
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  8. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    That's true. But I think either brother felt avenged if one of them beat the other's conqueror.
     
  9. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very true
     
  10. Brian1980

    Brian1980 Member Full Member

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    Was it a timing thing? Byrd lost his very next fight against Wlad. Was there demand at the time? In hindsight I agree there should’ve been a rematch at some point.
     
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  11. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    I agree that a rematch should have been chased ... but would anybody here really put a bent nickel on Byrd winning if it had happened? The rematch would have been 'for honour' and not because anybody seriously thinks Byrd would beat Vitali.
     
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Apparently the revisionists on this board think there's a good chance that he would have.
     
  13. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    ****ing lol
     
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  14. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    honestly in boxing how many rematches really happen? why didnt foreman rematch ali, why didnt tyson rematch douglas, why didnt pacman rematch horn etc etc etc
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Initially I laughed at this thread but it is interesting. I ASSUMES the fight didn't happen cause it didn't respect Vitalis injury timeline. Vitali was injured and needed surgery and obviously time off to heal. Did Vitali not want a rematch of a fight he was winning? Or did Byrd get offered more money and a hyped up fight w twin brother? Cause Wlad Byrd fought in October...Vitali came back in November...