Dubois defeats Wardley, and the winner is...USYK!

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  1. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, people will say, "Name one boxer Uysk would lose to," and I don't have an answer, as I do think he is the greatest in the division. However, Usyk and any boxer are not unbeatable. The best boxers in the early to mid-1900s would lose to bums because they fought every other day.
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, and it plays into Fury's whole 'why would I fight Usyk? Nobody at heavyweight can beat me so I'll just fight Chisora for a third time instead" bs.

    But with Usyk everyone laps it up like it's dessert.
     
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  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does to me and a lot of others. I have no interest in seeing AJ/Dubios/Fury 3.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Again, this is a canard. No one is talking about a 3. Usyk was good enough so he won the 2. There have been no third matches.
     
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  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk will likely end his career with a third Fury bout, and he almost had a third AJ one had he gotten past Dubios.

    Don't put it past him.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    But we aren't there yet and its not what the thread is about. The thread is explicitly that he made the right choices Joshua 1-Dubois II.
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think he made the right choice for Dubios 2, nor does he appear to be making the right choices now. He should have retired after Fury 2 imo
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Dubois II is now no longer a question.

    Now is not what the thread is about. It is agreed IN OPENING STATEMENT that he made a mistake by taking kickboxer over Parker. There is no dog in that fight.
     
  9. Kiwi Casual

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    ...you just said it was.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    No, I did not. But fair play. Say your piece.
     
  11. DubbleJab

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    I'm struggling to understand your point about it not counting because he dropped the belts....

    Belts are irrelevant, it's the standard of opponent which is the important thing.

    Fury, Joshua and Dubois are the 3 most proven HWs of Usyk's HW era. The criticism of a man who has beaten the top fighters in the two most difficult weight classes to remain undefeated is crazy.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

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    "But we aren't there yet and its not what the thread is about. The thread is explicitly that he made the right choices Joshua 1-Dubois II."

    That is word for word what I quoted you as saying before.
     
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  13. DubbleJab

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    Who is?

    Based on wins, Dubois is the 4th best HW of this era after Usyk, Fury and Joshua.
     
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  14. Kiwi Casual

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    He dropped the IBF to ensure his next unification opponent was either AJ or Dubios, men he had already beaten.

    As for the standard of opponent and whether or not they were the best of this era until Usyk: Fury? Sure. AJ? Debatable given his losses and recent opposition. Dubios? Not quite, needs to do more before he cements himself as one of the most proven.

    I don't have an issue with the opponents perse, more that he got stuck with rematches and fights so infrequently we don't get to see any of the other contenders get a fair crack at the belts.
     
  15. Kiwi Casual

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    Fair, but Dubios has also had more opportunity (imo undeserved) than the other top heavyweights atm. There's multiple I'd pick to beat him in an H2H.