Would Usyk have won if he fought Chisora, AJ, Fury and DD in a "fire for fire" style?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    In other words, would Usyk have won if he fought like Holyfield in the Bowe 1 fight?
     
  2. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    No

    Usyk made a lot of adaptations at heavyweight
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fought Joyce like that and did well. He's certainly capable of it, but far too smart.

    Could Mayweather have stood toe to toe with a lot of guys and still won? Yes.
     
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  4. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    no. basically thats a phone booth fight and id take David Tua to whoop him a 100/100 if that were the case, but we all know Usyk would beat Tua any day of the week.

    The only one you mentioned that Usyk may beat if he went toe to the the whole time is Fury
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Well, seeing as he hurt all of them more or way more than they hurt him and he has a better chin than all of them sans arguably Chisora. Yes.

    Also, pump him full of the industrial amount of roids lab creation Holyfield was on and he might get arrested for legal homicide

    People who think Usyk isn't a dawg have no idea what they're talking about.
     
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Better chin than Fury? We will never know how Usyk would react to Wilder's punches (it's another story if Wilder would miss those punches).
    Nor will we find out how Usyk would react if Fury hit him as many times as he hit Fury during Fury's knockdown.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk wouldn't get knocked down by single punches from Pakjic & Cunningham.
     
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  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk came forward on Fury all through the first fight. I’d argue if he fought fury at range in the first fight, he may have lost. The rounds of fury one were the ones fought at the end of his jab.

    in both Joshua fights he took it to him and with stood a barrage later in the fight and came back to hurt Joshua

    Sure Usyk never just stood and traded, he’s too sophisticated for that but I’d argue he was the aggressor in those fights
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Greedy Belly has been dropped and badly hurt numerous times by non-punchers

    Usyk has never been dropped by a headshot in over 370 fights am and pro with the possible exception of once when he was a skinny teenager who weighed 165lbs

    I know he's a great defensive fighter but he has fought a murderer's row of savage punchers and legit punchers and we've literally never seen him close to going down, on wobbly legs, or close to being badly hurt by a headshot

    How would The Dosser react to Usyk's punches if Usyk wanted to get him out of there quickly?

    And Usyk is a great defensive fighter and it comes naturally to him. Even when he's being super aggressive he's never going to turn into a punch magnet like Big Joe Joyce
     
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    You probably made the correct statement, but I didn't mention Pajkic and Cunningham, but Wilder and Fury.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk took single hard punches from Joshua in their 2nd fight.

    Joshua in terms of power is up there with Wilder and he hits harder than Wilder with the left hand.

    Fury has been floored 8 times he's never had a great chin it's his recovery powers that are good.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Additionally, why fight to your opponents strengths? Having slug fests against bigger men almost never works out, or in the rare cases where it would work you take far too much damage from it.
     
  13. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Why in the world would Usyk ever choose to fight in a style that would play to his opponents' advantages?

    You might as well speculate how George Foreman might do if he tried to employ a "sweet science" boxing approach or if Ali chose to go straight at his opponents and knock them out, etc.,etc.
     
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  14. TipNom

    TipNom Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think so. His feet, defense and coordination would allow him to land more big shots than they'd land on him. Look at the last sequence in the Dubois rematch. Dubois tries to catch him coming in with a big right similar to how he did Joshua, But Usyk is too aware and fast, he slips it and comes back with a left as Dubois is in the midst of throwing a left of his own. Those kinds of exchanges would be constantly happening in a fire fight and Usyk basically already showed that he would probably win them. The second Fury fight aswell had plenty of moments where Usyk would win the exchanges because of his superior coordination and speed.

    Now if he genuinely put all his skill aside and just stood and traded with them without defending himself, then no he probably wouldn't win lol. But in a Holyfield Bowe kind of fight with constant high danger fast paced exchanges requiring fast paced thinking, Usyk would come out on top despite his size and power disadvantage because as he's already shown, he can think and react at a faster rate than they can.
     
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