Hi, I just watched an 'ethics talk' on 'why do we watch other people fight'. Obviously there were criticizms and benefits to both training combat sports and watching, often the most negative points from the ones that oviously had no experience with the topic. But i found it interesting. But the opinion of the ones that are actually deeply interested in boxing seems way more interesting. So can you say - why is it that you watch boxing?
People watch boxing for the intense blend of high-stakes drama, physical chess, and pure athleticism. Often called the "sweet science", it combines precision, strategy, and visceral action as fighters put their skills and grit to the test on a global stage. Here is why audiences tune in to watch the sport: Tactical Brilliance: It’s not just two people brawling; it’s a mental and physical chess match. Watching fighters set up traps, feint, and counterpunch shows high-level, real-time problem-solving. Raw Drama and High Stakes: Unlike many team sports, boxing involves fighters putting their bodies and records on the line. The danger adds a layer of thrill and suspense that you rarely get anywhere else. Incredible Conditioning: Professional boxers are among the most conditioned athletes in the world. Watching their speed, footwork, and stamina is mesmerizing. Inspiring Backstories: Boxing is often referred to as the "poor man's sport". Many of the greatest fighters come from extreme adversity, offering inspiring narratives of redemption and hard work.
Lots of famous sport writers noted how you can't love boxing without occasionally hating it (obviously you can), but this complex admiration is what adds to its timeless appeal. Joyce Carol Oates (and so does Springs Toledo)has great quotes on the subject: “No American sport or activity has been so consistently and so passionately under attack as boxing, for "moral" as we'll as other reasons. And no American sport evokes so ambivalent a response in its defenders: when asked the familiar question "How can you watch . . . ?" the boxing aficionado really has no answer. He can talk about boxing only with others like himself.” “Clearly, boxing's very image is repulsive to many people because it cannot be assimilated into what we wish to know about civilized man. In a technological society possessed of incalculably refined methods of mass destruction (consider how many times over the United States and the Soviet Union have vaporized each other in fantasy) boxing's display of direct unmitigated and seemingly natural aggression is too explicit to be tolerated.” “To watch boxing closely, and seriously, is to risk moments of what might be called animal panic—a sense not only that something very ugly is happening but that, by watching it, one is an accomplice. This awareness, or revelation, or weakness, or hairline split in one’s cuticle of a self can come at any instant, unanticipated and unbidden; though of course it tends to sweep over the viewer when he is watching a really violent match. I feel it as vertigo—breathlessness—a repugnance beyond language: a sheerly physical loathing. That it is also, or even primarily, self-loathing goes without saying. At such times one thinks: What is happening? why are we here? what does this mean? can’t this be stopped? ... Yet we don't give up on boxing, it isn't that easy. Perhaps it's like tasting blood. Or, more discreetly put, love commingled with hate is more powerful than love. Or hate.” From On Boxing as quotes by goodreads.com
I get the opposition and when tragedies strike I will think about it. But I love the bravery and ring craft and deep.down that kill or be killed part of being a man.
Human are a violent species. History proves this. We may as individuals sometimes be peaceful, but as a whole, that would not be the reality of humanity. Most apes are violent. We're the most violent of the bunch arguably. At least boxing (and some other sports) let's those of us with violent tendencies have a organized and controlled way of dealing with our nature. Just my view on it anyway.
I recently had a discussion with my uncle about this. For my part, I don't care about any moral outrage, that will never change. I do agree that if you watch for example Dubois vs. Wardley and the amount of punishment that Fabio shipped, boxing can feel like a guilty pleasure. But the fighters accept the risk, and any real boxing fan knows the nature of this sport. To sum up: The drama, the physical brilliance, the show of incredible will and pain tolerance, and maybe as a man that a fight is just something you can't take your eyes off.
The same question can be asked about football: "why do you watch football when football players are fighting each other on purpose?". Why do you watch cycling and athletics when everyone is taking anabolic steroids?... Why do you listen to rock music when it is a breeding ground for fornication and vice? The world we live in is immoral; unethical. P.S. I watch boxing for fun. For example, handball is such a rough sport for me that I have always looked at handball like this - if you like such roughness, you better get in the ring.
Physical sports require physical toll and risks. There are frightening things about American football and that other one that they call Unamerican football even. But it comes with the territory. We get to decide for ourselves. That's freedom. Personal freedom can be argued as inherently ethical. Which is why in a free nation, we can all do as many drugs as we want with no legal ramifications.
Agreed 100%. Simple as that to me. The same ethical issues with watching boxing are also there for NFL. I choose to not concern myself with those. Grown ass men can do as they please. Grown ass men can choose to smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and eat nothing but fast food; why can’t they choose a dangerous sport as a profession?