Deontay Wilder Had an Absurd Level of Confidence in His Weapon

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  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder is often described as a limited boxer, and to be fair, there is truth in that. He was never a complete technician. He did not have Tyson Fury’s versatility, Oleksandr Usyk’s footwork, or the layered boxing IQ of the great pure boxers.

    But reducing Wilder to “he just hit hard” is too lazy.

    Wilder had an absurd level of confidence in his weapon. And that weapon was not just raw power. His right hand was an entire system. Everything he did, even with all his flaws, was built around one idea: creating the exact moment where that right hand could land.

    And that is also a form of intelligence.

    Not the classic intelligence of a slick technician who wins every exchange cleanly. Not the pretty kind of boxing IQ people love to praise. Wilder’s intelligence was different. It was narrow, brutal, and highly specialized. He understood his biggest advantage and shaped his fights around it.

    He could lose round after round. He could look awkward. He could miss badly. He could seem out of rhythm. But he was still watching. Still measuring. Still waiting for one mistake.

    A bad step.
    A repeated exit.
    A lazy guard.
    A split-second opening.

    Then the right hand came.

    That was not random.

    Plenty of fighters hit hard, but they do not know how to land their best shot at the highest level. Wilder knew how to land his shot. He did not need twenty tools because he had sharpened one tool until it became terrifying.

    His right hand was so dangerous that opponents had to fight him with constant tension. You could be outboxing him for ten rounds and still feel like the fight was not safe. That psychological pressure was part of his boxing.

    The Fury fights showed this clearly. Fury was the better boxer, the more complete fighter, and the smarter adapter. But Wilder still dropped him multiple times. Even when Fury was breaking him down, Wilder remained dangerous. Even tired, hurt, and losing control of the fight, he could still change everything with one punch.

    That shows both his limitation and his greatness.

    His problem was that his confidence in that weapon was so extreme that it eventually became his prison. When the right hand was not enough, Wilder did not have enough answers. He did not have a reliable Plan B. He lived and died with the same bullet.

    But the full truth is this:

    Wilder was not a technical genius.
    But he was not some mindless brute either.
    He was an extreme specialist.


    His intelligence was in knowing exactly what he had, how destructive it was, and how to keep that threat alive until the final second.

    That is why his career is so unique. He was not the most polished heavyweight of his era, but he was one of the most dangerous. He was not a master boxer. He was a sniper.

    And as a sniper, he had almost irrational faith in his shot.

    Deontay Wilder had an absurd level of confidence in his weapon.

    And the crazy part is that for many years, that confidence was completely justified.
     
  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A good post.

    Much as I don't rate Wilder in terms of technical ability or resume during his title reign up until Ortiz/Fury, there was no denying that right hand was an ultimate equalizer. In all 3 Fury fights and his bout against Parker and Zhang, I was on the edge of my seat because all it took was one well landed shot. An exciting fighter, even if he was unlikeable with his antics/excuse making.
     
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  3. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    He came to my attention with the first stiverne fight. I remember how i was annoyed with his continued success because he looked so awkward and was waiting for him to lose.
    When he came close to losing in the first ortiz fight, that was probably the most exciting fight for me i have ever watched live.
    The fury fights also were great excitements.

    He gave me a few very good boxing experiences, i have to admit that.

    And there certainly is a lot of skill he showed by landing those punches in all circumstances.

    And it's not just one punch. The szpilka ko is different from the others for example. Very hard to execute with the necessary timing. Also you have to be very concentrated and completely ignore szpilkas attack there.

    I think it was the first kd in the first ortiz fight that was such a small window of opportunity and such a small opening. So precise.

    So yes, you're really right.

    By now he has lost the emotional fortitude/recklessness to execute these shots in the face of danger like he did earlier in his career. But as he showed with chisora he can still take a lot of punishment, surprisingly, in order to get a win.

    Also in the chisora fight he either hurt himself or actually tried not to hurt chisora too badly and took some punishment as reward. He definitely dimmed down his attacks where chisora was hurt the worst. I'm pretty confident it wasn't stamina issues. And he mentioned it after the fight. Not exactly the wilder of old.
     
  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder was a glorified contender with a good straight right - thats all that he was. He never beat a single opponent of note in a 40+ fight career.

    And yet we have ppl making threads obsessing over him. Its cringe tbh
     
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  5. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the guy he sacked as trainer Breland misses out on a lot of the credit. Abilty wise Wilder wasnt good. He obviously had the power. But without the strategy he was nothing.

    Breland was smart enough to know how to play to Wilders strength. Which we,re mainly his height/length and power. With that length if the opponent wanted to get to Wilder he had to close the gap on him. In doing that you left yourself open to that right hand.

    Was just a case of Wilder edging in with the jab using his length. When the opponent went forward Wilder usually backed off with his footwork making it harder to close the gap on him. It would start to frustrate opponents....not long later they,d stop going forward because they couldnt get anywhere with it. Then just a matter of time before wilder stuck in some right hands when edging up.

    Klitchko etc done a similar thing a lot of the time. Edge up with jab and usually backed off when the smaller opponent tried to come forward throwing punches making them fall short. Not long before opponents stopped coming forward. Klitchko then started controlling opponents from there with the jab. Then start chucking in the odd right hand. It was all in the feet. For Wilder and Klitchko.

    Wilders big problem was he came up against an opponent with similar height/length that could move more ways than just forward and back and could punch on the move in Fury.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    His "system" was good for crushing cans.

    I actually give Wilder a lot of credit for the Chisora fight, and I don't feel like hating on him, but this is too many words to say that all a guy had was his right hand and he got good at setting it up.

    1-5 of the post Klit era are...

    Usyk
    Fury
    Joshua
    Dubois
    Parker

    Wilder is somewhere after that.
     
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  7. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Instagram/Facebook coaches format of posting with lots of fluff.

    Wilder was feasting on cans while having hometown advantage all through. A huge puncher with solid chin and determination will always have a chance in the sport, but his so called championship reign consisted of fighting B and C-class opposition and showing major red flags through (befuddled by Szpilka, rocked by Molina, needed a gift stoppage against Duhaupas who was walking him down) — warning signs that would all be his undoing later (Zhang applying pressure from behind a high-guard and absolutely demolishing him; Parker being on the slicker side like Szpilka, but having actual consistent defense and offense; Fury applying pressure and chin-checking him despite absolutely not being a big hitter, though with timing and handspeed could deliver just enough.)

    He's lucky he didn't fight Chisora when Dereck was giving extremely good fights to guys like Whyte, Parker, and Usyk.

    Ortiz was his saving grace, and he almost got KTFO by the grandpa whose outside, low-volume and pressure style suited Wilder's own.
     
  8. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has one punch power capable of changing an entire fight with ONE landed blow.
    And he's done it numerous times.
    It can't be taught and like him or not but he has heart and will take a beating.
     
  9. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have confidence in my weapon too.

    Im confident it can explode at a moments notice
     
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  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    If he was that confident in it, he'd have fought better opponents much sooner than he did.

    Up to a point he used it pretty well, despite his limitations in other areas - but he's still comically overrated overall.

    It's good that he's taking more challenges now - regardless of the fact he's lost against Parker and Zhang (without being competitive against either of them).
    And even though looked like he hasn't really got much left to give at this point against a completely shot Chisora, at least he's taking challenges.
    Hopefully we'll continue to see him in more competitive bouts before he retires, whatever level those are at.

    I don't think history will be as kind to him as hype in the moment was, not by a long way.
     
  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Deontay "No Defense" Wilder doesn't just lack technique.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder engaged in 13 WBC heavyweight title fights in 50 pro bouts.

    Not interim title fights. Not "regular" title fights. Not fights for a "vacant" title.

    And out of those 13 heavyweight title fights, he only lost two ... the second (a five-knockdown historic brawl) was voted Fight of the Year.

    Only three highly ranked opponents have ever defeated him. Fury, Parker and Zhang.

    And their victories over Wilder are considered the single biggest wins in each of their careers, even though each one outweighed Wilder by ridiculous amounts.

    If Wilder outweighed a fighter by 40 or 70 pounds, that win would NOT be considered the best win in Wilder's career.

    In fact, Wilder would be ridiculed for fighting someone so light.

    Yet, Wilder remains the biggest win in their careers because Wilder ... despite all the crap people on this board heap on him ... is that highly regarded ... even by the haters.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does a fighter need to be a World Champ or have a stellar resume to have fans??
     
  14. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope and Wilder is the best example of this.
     
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  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Can a fighter ever be so transparently manufactured that nobody falls for it?

    Genuine question.
     
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