Alexander Povetkin in the 1980's

This I agree with. I think he certainly could have competed in that era and found success but he wouldn't dominate the division.

 

I feel that Povetkins consistency and longevity would separate him from a lot of the 80s belt holders.

He first features in the end of year rankings in 2007, and his last appearance was in 2020.

In an era with three belts changing hands a lot, he strikes me as being a fighter who could thrive in that ecosystem.

 

That’s a false statement.

 

It’s upsetting to you that Wlad massacred Byrd, a top heavyweight at the time. We get it.

 

A tough, hard hitting Olympic Gold medalist would be a problem in ANY era. Especially Alexander.

The Povetkin of 2012-2017 could beat any ****ing contender from the 80’s. And on his best night… he could defeat any champ from that era.

The amount of coping I see certain posters do when it comes to Povetkin is hilarious The guy was elite in his best days. Simple as that.

 

The above carries a certain irony, in that the recreational drug culture, once associated with the rapid decline of top-tier '80s heavyweights, was replaced, decades later, by a performance-enhancing drug culture, capable of prolonging careers (and making already dangerous athletes even more dangerous).

As has already been alluded to in this thread, the impression of Povetkin in the '80s depends on whether the ecosystem in question allows for the same type of 'program' that Povetkin likely benefited from.

 

Somehow this thread is on the way to Klitschkoville. Let me guess why

 

Teh Pinkerton Detective Agency had a policy that they woudl never comment on the morality of a lady.

 

As charming a historical reference as that is , I am meanwhile led to believe that the WADA and the ITA has had somewhat more of a proactive approach to communicating about various investigations into systemic doping practices in Russian sport.

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Underneath what is now seemingly pointless grandstanding, it is still odd to me that Povetikin did not contest the finding or protest the actions taken against him. Even if it was only to uphold his name, this does little to diffuse suspicion that he was part of a continuous program.

Whatever the full story is, it's a shame.

 

Plenty of steroids available in the 1980s so why would anyone think Povetkin wouldn't take PEDs in that era?

 

Rose tinting.

 

To be fair, @dinovelvet was not the one to bring Wlad into this debate. Wlad/Byrd II was being used to prop up a narrative that Byrd was not a spent fighter when he fought Povetkin – which he so clearly was.

It's common knowledge that Byrd was well past it by the time he met Wlad a second time. He was not going to have been rejuvenated some 16 months later.

Good win for that stage of Povetkin's career, but not a useful benchmark for measuring his cross-era prowess.