In 5 years people will accept Usyk as the GOAT heavyweight

We don't have to speculate how Usyk would've fared against more than 6 HWs because literally every fighter he's fought as a pro is a HW by the standards of Ali's and Joe Louis' eras and not only that every single one of the fighters he's fought as a pro was bigger than many of the HWs they fought

And almost all the HWs he's fought are much or way bigger than then the HWs Ali fought so by the exact same logic it's pure speculation to speculate how Ali would've fared against the SHW giants the size of the ones Usyk has fought. You can't suddenly change the rules and say ''but''

Again, the 2nd biggest HW Ali ever fought is smaller than the 2nd smallest one Usyk ever fought and the biggest one Ali ever fought was a out of shape 6'3'' HW with a 76'' reach

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And the SHW giants Louis fought were slow and unathletic Frankenstein's monsters who didn't even know how to use their range. Usyk is fighting skilled athletic SHW giants

Also, Usyk fought 6 SHW giants in the WSB under semi-pro rules and half of them were some of the world's best SHWs, including a 3 x World Amateur champion and an Olympic silver medalist

And they weighed from 233lbs-277lbs

So even the lightest one was bigger than the 2nd biggest HW Ali ever fought

So that means Usyk has been in a ring with HWs who weighed between 233lbs-280lbs 14 times and never vs anyone who weighed less than 193, only x 2 vs opponents who weighed less than 197

And Ali has been in the ring with ones who weigh more than 230lbs x 1 and with ones who weigh less than 193 like x 16 and less than 198 like 24 times or so, including many in the 180s and even some in the 170s

That's 24 times in 61 fights

But one of them lacks fights against HWs

And both Ali and Louis were badly hurt or badly hurt and almost KO'd by fighters much smaller than every fighter Usyk has fought, like 22-30lbs smaller than them and like 12-25lbs smaller than every fighter Usyk has ever fought

And is Usyk is the only fighter in history who is better when past or way past his prime than he was in the midst of it?

He was already four months away from turning 35 when he won his first HW title(s) and 37 when he became undisputed and is currently the 4th oldest HW champion of all time, the 3rd oldest unified one, and the oldest ever undisputed one and if he wins on Saturday he will very likely move up that list to the #3 spot (the #3 oldest HW champion of all time) by the next time he fights

He was much faster, more agile, with much sharper reflexes and reaction times back in his prime than he is now and has been for many years and all these HWs he's fought in world title fights as a pro are younger or much younger than him too and if he was fighting in most previous eras he wouldn't have to bulk up to 221-225lbs because, duh, he wouldn't be facing 233-280lbs SHW giants or ones who were actually athletic, skilled and fast for their size

 

But I never said it was. I'm specifically referring to Usyk only having fought 5 HWs and 8 fights at HW, or 6 HWs if you count one of the guys he fought in his 9th fight who weighed 207lbs and therefore being less proven at HW when literally every fighter he's fought as a pro would not only be a HW in the eras of what most people consider to be the 2 best HWs of all time but were generally the same size as the HWs they fought, or bigger or much bigger than many of the ones they fought and every HW he's fought are bigger, much or way bigger than almost all the HWs Ali fought and the SHW giants Louis fought are unathletic Frankenstein's monsters

Apparently if Usyk turned pro when he was younger and moved up to HW when he was in the midst of his prime when he was faster, more agile, with razor sharp reflexes and reaction times he wouldn't have done better than the past prime version from 35-38 y/o did. I mean it's not like we saw him in his prime vs SHWs in the WSB when he was very noticeably faster, more agile, with much sharper reflexes or reaction times or anything and all his attributes caused them fits

So if that's speculation then by that same logic Ali vs SHW sized HWs the size of the ones Usyk fought is also pure speculation considering the 2nd biggest fighter Ali fought would be the smallest HW Usyk has fought and the biggest HW Ali fought was out of shape 6'3'' HW with a 76'' reach

And it's also conveniently ignored that whilst Usyk has only fought at HW 8 times he's fought the champs or #1 or #2 rated contenders in all his world title fights at the weight sans Dubois 1 who was his mandatory and even though these other great HWs have many more fights at HW they also fought a lot of bums or journeymen.

If Usyk had fought at HW x 20 instead of x 8 but with the rest being made up of bums, journeymen, or Chazz Witherspoon level guys would it make his HW resume more impressive?

He's fighting Rico next who is way bigger than anyone Ali fought including height, weight, and reach. Is Rico worse than the bums the other HW greats fought on their way up?

And it's also conveniently ignored that Usyk is 39 y/o and became undisputed at HW when he was past his prime and champions in their mid to late 30s are generally not as active as ones in their 20s and early 30s, let alone if their country was invaded and has been at war throughout most of their reigns

And him having to rematch AJ and Belly is being used as a weapon to discredit him when those rematches were not made to benefit him (quite the opposite, in fact) but rather to right the wrong of him throwing a big spanner in the works of the plans to make the ''biggest fight in boxing history.''