Inside Information On The Hectic Situation Currently Surrounding Usyk & His Team.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I was contacted by someone close to the Usyk camp on X, and he asked me to relay this information. This is all alleged, and I have no confirmation of it, but the person clearly has Usyk's best interest at heart.


    Greetings. Deliver this msg to the forum, so Usyk name can stay clean.

    His idiotic team, aka Sergey Lapin is pushing Usyk to fight more out of greed, and is literally lying him with b.c. AI technology system, and are just praising him he is the best in the division by far and he is just surrounded by yes men.

    Usyk has split with Krassyuk last year, as you all know, but he has split with Egis Klimas as well, and on top of that, he has split with his long term coach Yuri Tkachenko, and is now trained by AJ loser trainer, who has more loses in his career than wins - Igor Golub.

    This is another smart decision by Sergey Lapin. This is the equivalent of Wladimir changing his late past coach Manny(RIP) with Johnathon Banks. Same story, probably will have the end result.

    Usyk feet/legs are shot. And they are trying to bring him heavier, and flat footed so he can punch harder, cause his reaction time is shot, his reflexes are shot, his movement is shot, and his energy, stamina and punch output is clearly heavily declined.


    On top of that every single fight Usyk do, he is paying 2-3m. to buy the TV rights of his fight and gift it to Ukraine, so they can watch his fights for free.

    And he is filled with niggles and injuries.
     
  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Sad situation for a great fighter.
     
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  3. Camps

    Camps Active Member Full Member

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    Fascinating. Might explain a lot.

    Meantime it seems Rico told Ariel Helwani today he plans to file an appeal.

    Would this even be a thing had the WBC and (sort of) WBA not sanctioned this fight and given it their imprimatur -- rather than treat it more properly as an exhibition?

    Or maybe Usyk's new "team" sees greater $$ in a Rico rematch than in the Kabayel fight that boxing fans want?

    Whoever fights Usyk next, it would be the classiest of acts were that fighter to dedicate a portion (of whatever size) of their payday to the Ukrainian cause.... IMHO....
     
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  4. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Careful, Icarus
     
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  5. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    Curious as to when exactly his team changed. It could be significant if it happened prior to Dubois 2.

    The last line reminds of when someone from his team said that he was suffering from "unseen" or "non visible" injuries or whatever he called it after that fight, and unless it was code for mental health issues, it wouldn't make sense to come from that fight as he barely got tagged and those "injuries" lasted months. If the team change happened prior to Dubois 2, it could be possible that Usyk's injures come from training.

    If so then yeah, his team is ****ing stupid. And he's being stupid if he's just accepting of it. He should know better, he's a pro athlete and a grown ass man. Either retire or get yourself a proper team behind you, instead of AJ's coach just because you like the idea of replicating the Rocky-Apollo beach run irl.

    The guy definitely sounds like he's trying too hard to excuse Usyk though. He was on fire 10 months ago and now everything is shot all of a sudden. If he's really injuring himself that badly in training or if he aged overnight, then it should show itself in his next fight. Guess we'll see.
     
  6. BustedSaint

    BustedSaint Country Member Full Member

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    Pretty difficult to argue this, the magic footwork was no more and a loss was highly likely, lady luck made a late appearance.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I've been telling you all for years Usyk has declined a lot and has been doing so gradually for a long time and I just find it astonishing how everyone who has followed his career hasn't noticed it too. It's glaring. Yes he's still formidable but if he didn't have such a great chin he would've come unstuck by now.

    His speed advantage has been dwindling bit by bit and where he was once 3-4 steps ahead he's only 1 ahead now and I think Rico was actually faster than him with single shots which was bizarre to witness knowing how fast and elusive he used to be.

    Rico is fast for his size but Usyk used to be blazing fast with super sharp reflexes and reaction times and these giants were afraid to lead vs him for fear of being punished with quick counters or when they did he would simply see the shot coming, step back out of range before immediately getting back in range and exerting pressure on them.

    Even in the rematch vs Dubois he looked very noticeably slower, stiffer and less fluid, smooth and agile than he did in the first fight. Yes, he looked powerful and was able to punish Dubois with some lovely counters but he used to be so fast, fluid, smooth and agile and move like he was a 147 pounder.

    Go watch AJ I and compare how he looked in that one to vs Rico or even Dubois II and going back the amateur/WSB early CW version of him was like a 200-210lb mongoose

    Hatman did a video about Usyk's decline a year ago breaking it down with footage from now and then but it's on his Patreon and I haven't seen it. He mentions it here

    This content is protected


    But, as said, I've been saying this for bloody years and I've been a huge fan of his since 2008 and have watched him in all his incarnations and under the tutelage of many head trainers which I think has played a part in that too
     
  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damn. If that's true then I feel bad about rubbishing Usyk for taking the Rico fight. Sounds like he's surrounded by leeches.
     
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  9. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Lineal champs only! Go Lineal or go home. Full Member

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    If he wants to keep fighting, there's no point surrounding himself with blokes who think he should be retired. Their negativity isn't what's required to get any remaining juice out of the orange. He's not a young man & if he keeps going someone will knock him off. In saying that, he'd probably start favourite against anyone out there so he may well have two or three successful title defences left in him. Boxing is what makes him special so you can understand him not wanting to give it away. As a very well known fighter once said, 'you finish at the finish line'. Usyk isn't there yet. Also, what the sanctioning bodies want him to do at this point is largely irrelevant. He's the Heavyweight Champion of the World (the real one) until someone beats him in the ring or he elects to retire (permanently). Beware of pretenders & cheap imitations.
     
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  10. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was a hard read. Sad to hear. He's been trending downward for a while now, but the Dubois rematch was the first time I thought his legs truly looked "off" - like his knees were stiff and didn't have much bounce in them. His punches have lacked the snap they used to as a result IMO. Obviously it was even worse this past weekend with the natural aging and added weight.

    It's interesting to read about the more flat footed strategy to sit down and focus on power more. I've suspected that's what they've been going for. And while it would put him in more harm's way, it's probably the best strategy against somebody like Kabayel at this point if his legs aren't responding. Make him truly feel some power and think twice about sitting down on those body shot combinations, because he's open for counters and shots up the middle.

    All that said, I wish he'd just hang it up and sail into the Hall of Fame first ballot. No need to pick up a loss and more punishment to somebody he would have comfortably beaten just a couple years ago.
     
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  11. Samart'sTeep

    Samart'sTeep Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I always felt like Usyk never really physically adapted well to heavyweight anyway. That sounds strange to say considering he's undefeated in that weight class, and he beat three of the top dogs twice. But I felt like he was forcing himself to keep on that extra weight, and it just slowed him down. He was still very slick and could create great angles to attack. He was still masterful in controlling his opponent's lead hand and feinting them into paralysis. He did a fantastic job of that against Joshua in their first fight. And maybe he needed that extra size for some added durability and strength. But he definitely was never a natural heavyweight in my mind. Holyfield was smaller, but his body adapted a lot better to his added weight in my opinion.
     
  12. BustedSaint

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    To me the shock was the loss of his main advantage, the magic feet, and all of the connotations that brought in both defense and attack. The question for me now is, was it due to age or fitness?
     
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  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't doubt this is true, but how much do you know about the source? It's weird to see some broken English (hinting at a Ukrainian) but then also see a deeply british word like "niggles" that a non-native wouldn't know.

    Either way, Usyk is a chunko. Terrible camp, no doubt about it.
     
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  14. ubareem

    ubareem Member Full Member

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    He needs to retire ASAP. At most maybe a rematch and last payday with Rico and then hang up the gloves.

    If he really is as declined as he was vs Rico, he should not risk his legacy vs a Kabayel or Itauma.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I did quite a bit of research on the account that gave me the information, which has been around for a while. The name is connected to someone in his camp, and I highly doubt they'd go in this deep for this long to pull off some kind of charade. I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't think it was legit. Niggles might be something he came across as a non English speaker, looking for an English word to describe the problems he's having.