Antonio Vargas vs. Jesse James Rodríguez Franco & Arturo Cardenas vs. Jordan Martinez II RBR.

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back banned Full Member

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    Resumes won't mean a single thing if they ever fight
     
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  2. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    This post is ridiculous from top to bottom.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    What I saw in there last night, and you all saw too, was Bam-Rod doing his best Loma impersonation but getting lit up like a Xmas tree whilst attempting to do because it only comprised of the sidesteps and not all Loma's masterful head movement, slipping, blocking, parrying, spatial awareness, gliding in and out of range all of which would cause Inoue nightmares. But even this past prime and sliding down the slippery slope fast Inoue who Bam-Rod has clearly been trying to age out and catch at the right time would be able to detonate his bombs on Bam-Rod's noggin and lay him out.

    They desperately want Inoue to be at least 34 and show even more signs of slippage before they're willing to step up to the plate and even that's a gamble they're clearly not comfortable with. I think Inoue is hurtling down that slope fast now and he's going to be there for the taking in his next few fights and even though they suspect this too they'd rather leave it a bit longer just to make sure

    I got the strong impression Vargas would've won last night if he had any semblance of a chin but he doesn't and it genuinely made me feel sick having to witness such a repulsive lack of punch resistance at such an ungodly hour after a long night of watching sports
     
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  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting fight, Vargas fought with a plan and stuck to it. He landed plenty of shots but really was fighting for points and at no point seemed to have Rodriguez bothered. Rodriguez used some good angles and was setting up his punches. They both executed their plans well but Rodriguez just has more.

    As for an Inoue fight. I still feel like I need to keep Inoue as the favorite. Bam could pull a Nery with the tricky southpaw stance and land a short hard left and drop Inoue. However, I saw Vargas landing some left hooks and backing Bam up and just have the impression that Inoue would do the same but with power on his punches.

    I think Rodriguez would bring the fight to Inoue and make it fund but I still favor Naoya.
     
  5. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I think your analysis is accurate. Clearly, he is trying to imitate Loma's movement but looks awkward or clumsy when doing so. Bam has a lot of power for these lower weight divisions, which means he has the potential to stop anyone, including Inoue. However, Inoue's power, resilience, and movement will give Bam trouble. Bam is younger and at the lower weighs, that is meaningful, but I still see Inoue as the favorite. Since Bam has never really been tested, it would be interesting to see how he responds if pressed. He seemed to cover, and not that effectively, when Vargas was on the front foot.

    I would categorize this as a pick 'em fight with the expectation that Inoue stops him. Inoue has earned the right for this fight to be fought in Tokyo, and that's where it should be fought.

    As an aside, I think Loma would have dominated Bam, and made him look amateurish.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I actually like Bam-Rod and rate him highly but he has some really annoying fans so I'm just gonna do what I do, it is what it is, and that's the way it's gonna be.

    I think the longer they continue to delay the Inoue fight, and Team Bam-Rod obviously know this too, it swings in Bam-Rod's favour. Inoue turns 34 next April whereas Bam-Rod turns 27 next Jan.

    Bam-Rod turned pro at 17 weighing 105 but he was up at 108 by his next fight just a month later and never dropped below that weight class again, Inoue turned pro at 108 at 19 y/o so they would've been the same weight if Bam-Rod turned pro at the same age Inoue did

    E-Hearn was very vocal about Inoue being next but Bam-Rod has always been far less enthusiastic re. that fight and talked about it happening years down the line. He's now saying that it's a fight that has to happen before he retires and even E-Hearn seemed less enthusiastic and more concerned about after last night and was talking about there being more titles to win at 118

    For sure, Loma was campaigning at Atomweight (105 or less) when he was 16 and that's with same day weigh ins and Flyweight when he was 18.5 (112) again with same day weigh ins so had he turned pro at the same age he would've done so at 105 and 135 would be his 9th weight class so it's very different indeed
     
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Bam Bam was less dominating early on last night because he was fighting a skilled Olympian who is taller and naturally bigger than himself. But still he came through with a nice KO.

    Vargas may have been down in several other fights, but he was only ever stopped once, and that was back in 2019. So let's give Rodriguez some deserved credit for an impressive win.
     
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  8. lobk

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    That is the level of unhinge fan boy from him. “well Bam has a better resume” Has nothing to do with talking about what would happen in a fight. Also better resume is taken with a grain of salt when it comes from a huge fan.
     
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  9. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Bam was impressive but Vargas played right into his hands. At times Vargas nullified Bam's spin out by hooking him but too often he stood in close and got potshotted from Bam's lefts. I don't believe Inoue will do that. He is more nimble.
     
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  10. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Inoue defeated Nonito Donaire who is a legend.