The 4 King's Question

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If all 4 met on the same night at Middle weight, how would the final results look.

    Maybe.
    Hagler 3 wins (Leonard,Hearns,Duran)
    Hearns 1 win (Duran)
    Leonard 2 wins (Hearns,Duran)
    Duran 0 wins
     
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  2. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    Assuming they're all their best versions at middleweight, such as Duran (Hagler fight), Hearns (Shuler fight), Hagler (Minter fight), Leonard (Hagler fight), then imo the results would be like this.

    Hagler: 3 wins (Duran, Hearns, Leonard)
    Hearns: 2 wins (Duran, Leonard)
    Leonard: 1 win (Duran)
    Duran: 0 wins


    Though Duran could pull a victory over this version of Leonard imo.

    However, if somehow we add in a hypothetical version of Leonard fighting at middleweight, such as a slightly heavier version of the one that beat Kalule or Geraldo, then imo the results would be.

    Hagler: 3 wins (Duran, Hearns, Leonard)
    Leonard: 2 wins (Duran, Hearns)
    Hearns: 1 win (Duran)
    Duran: 0 wins


    Though Hearns could beat Leonard, as I always thought he was a better middleweight and junior middleweight than Leonard.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    How many rounds is each fight?
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good question George.
    Let's make it spicy and say good old 15 !
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Well then, I'm absolutely certain Hagler destroys the second two fighters he faces and I'm pretty convinced Tommy isn't invited back for the second fight :lol:
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lol that bad then?
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No I just think that's the type of scenario where being bigger, tougher with great cardio is king - more than skill or other types of talent. If it were three or five rounds, I'd probably have picked Leonard.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep I get that.
    If it was like those exhibition type,six round fights, then Leonard could definitely have done great.
    Over 15 ... not sure.
     
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  9. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    on most nights Hearns has 2 wins and loses to Hagler. 2-1
    Hagler could drop one to any of the 3 but I think he's likely to go 3-0
    Leonard would beat Duran, 50/50 Hearns and likely lose to Hagler, but could go 3-0 technically, likely 2-1 or 1-2.
    and Duran would have to work hard to get a win, likely 0-3 or 1-2.
     
  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post, this is exactly how I see it.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Leonard beat Hagler and Duran at middleweight.

    I say he runs the gauntlet.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Not sure but I’m guessing Hagler and Hearns end up better than Leonard and Duran
     
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  13. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    any of those dudes could whip Duran
     
  14. Makingweight

    Makingweight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You have a great knowledge boxing, you will know it's also about timing of fights.

    Hagler to get the coin he rightly deserved as a guy that was nearing the end of his career, sadly gave up two major factors v SRL, ring size the other was totally self inflicted, the judges.

    His managers the Pertonelli's didn't want Harry Gibbs UK ref as judge he got pulled guy who replaced him called the fight for SRL and pretty wide iirc.

    TV station UK ITV hired Gibbs to judge it in the studio away from anyone headphones on he had Hagler winning by a couple!
     
  15. Makingweight

    Makingweight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm a Hagler fan, my favourite boxer so I'm a bit biased but a career MW against guys that were at their best at various other weights?

    Hagler beats them all at peak.
     
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