We've talked about this one over time, discussing the scoring and so forth. A true crossroads fight, the up-and-coming DLH against the savvy, aging Whitaker, each trying to exert himself over twelve hotly-contested rounds. I think it's fair to say that it was too close a fight for anyone to scream robbery. Virtually every round was close, so it comes down to whether you liked Whitaker's more insular mix of clever boxing, countering, mixing inside and out and trying to psychologically alter De La Hoya's gameplan, or did you like Oscar's more energetic, youthful approach with more active footwork, countering Sweet Pea's jab with lunging power combos (almost all of which missed)? In this way, each man could claim he did what he set out to do; Whitaker did indeed frustrate De La Hoya, making the speedy, powerful youngster miss excessively. De La Hoya's best work was (perhaps surpisingly) from the outside, where his better speed at that stage of their careers held sway, at least in terms of momentum if not actual punches landed. Each man had their moments, and each had their claim to one aspect of the fight; Whitaker largely did better in close, DLH fared better when they were at distance, an anomaly given their respective reputations and styles. It's fairly rare that both fighters can make such a claim, but this one was a puzzler for that very reason. They both did what they do, and did it well. Someone was bound to get butthurt over the decision in a case like that. How did you see it? What was your score, if you kept a card? I will say that this was one of the more difficult things to score, and I did it over three separate watchings, perhaps not the best idea but life gets in the way sometimes. It was one of those fights that if I were to watch it again, I might very well have it slightly different. And if I scored it a third time, it might yield a third different score. Anyway, for whatever it's worth, here's my card...... 1. Whitaker 2. DLH 3. DLH (warming to the occasion) 4. DLH 5. Whitaker 6. Whitaker 7. Whitaker 8. DLH (had to stop the momentum, and he did. Clear round) 9. Whitaker (10-8) -This begs some discussion; there was a knockdown called, and rightly so. A punch did land, and DLH went down ostensibly because of it. The question is, did that innocuous thing that was really more of a balance issue truly warrant a 10-8 round? I don't always do that. If I thought it was a mostly incidental thing, I'll call a round 10-9 and move on. In this instance, I took the extra point. There was a left hand that sort of cuffed Oscar around the neck, and a second to the chin that wasn't all that hard but Oscar did go down immediately from it. In this case, I felt it was warranted. The guy went down, y'know? 10. DLH (understandable urgency from Oscar; busier, though not landing a lot) 11. Whitaker 12. DLH (again, not much lands but his flurries take it in my eyes) Final score: 114-113 Whitaker. Not a robbery, just a very close fight that could have gone either way. The two judges that had Oscar by six points apparently already knew whom they were tabbing the winner before the opening bell. How did you see this go?
Haven't watched the fight in a long time. Last time I watched it had it for Oscar. Always felt Whitaker did a great job making him miss but didnt really make him pay. Oscar might miss a bunch but he still was landing something while Whitaker was just playing defense Not the greatest fight so I haven't watched it in a while
The collected scorecards from Boxrec have it 113-113. Oscar's scorecard is the better overall by .19 which is nothing in these terms. Clear Rounds for Whitaker: 1,5,6,9,11. Clear Rounds for Oscar: 2,3,4,8,10,12 So literally one round "up for grabs" and that's 7. That's very rare, that few up for grabs rounds in a close fight. Sal, your scorecard matches Oscar's wide rounds precisely.
Really the whole fight came down to how I decided to score the 9th round. I could understand a 10-9 score for that honestly.
I had Oscar winning a close one. I just felt Whittakers offense wasnt enough. Its hard to reward a guy for showboating and negativity.
Just dug up my scorecard from a few years ago: 1 - Oscar 2 - Whittaker (swing) 3 - Oscar 4 - Oscar (or draw: nothing round) 5 - Whitaker 6 - Oscar 7 - Oscar 8 - Oscar 9 - Whitaker + Oscar down 10 - Whitaker (swing) 11 - Whitaker 12 - Oscar (swing) 114 - 113 De La Hoya. From what I remember I’d have been happy with either man winning it but Oscar just stole it by a hair. The actual scorecards were far too wide tho.
I remember a very close fight, and yes, I would never call it a robbery here either. The same goes for De La Hoya-Quartey, another very close fight, a great battle with many rounds that were difficult to determine. In these cases a small margin for one fighter or the other is acceptable in my opinion. It's a different story for De La Hoya-Trinidad, in that case, I had a clear 7-5 for Oscar. I would have found a generous draw for Tito, but I don't know how his victory came about. Major robbery are different, but that, for me, is a controversial verdict.
I thought Hoya won it on his aggression/ youthful energy. Whitaker was brilliant in spurts, but wasn't offensive/ aggressive enough to win. But the fight was very, very , close.
That fight did more damage to Oscar's career than any other because it was after that fight that his "people" decided to fire Jesus Rivero as trainer. Oscar was 8-0 with 6 by Ko with Rivero but, going the distance with Gonzalez, who was 41-0 at the time, and a close fight with Whitaker led to the change, as if there is some shame in a close fight with Pernell Whitaker. Oscar had many trainers after that but the only one that ever understood him as a fighter was Rivero. That change deprived Oscar of the chance of being a great fighter.
It’s been years since I saw it, I remember scoring it 113-113. I think you could say this was that “one last great performance from a declined fighter” that Cus D’Amato talked about. Whitaker declined rather quickly after 1995, perhaps due to his lifestyle. There was the disputed win over Rivera in the first fight, and then him just looking old and bad for 10 rounds against Hurtado before catching him on the ropes (nice job Mercante Jr, way to fall asleep at the wheel and let Hurtado almost get killed). But Whitaker was able to put it together and fight on even terms with a great young fighter who also had a big height and reach advantage.
It wasn’t close at all. Oscar missed a fair bit but Whitaker did little outside of posturing for effect when he did miss, and providing no offence of his own . Watched it about three times and Oscar by several rounds every time. I’m surprised so many have this fight so close
close bout. one fighter could not deal with the other's circling motion and defense, while Whitaker could not muster enough offense to match that of Oscar's combinations. I gave it to Oscar on effort
I think Pernell was scared to mix it up with Oscar, and went into a defensive shell for most of the fight. A good defense is not enough
I thought Oscar won it by at least two points, likely three. I have always found Whitaker's performances to be overrated, this one especially.