Ruiz probably was legitimately one of the 10 best HWs in the world in 2019. He had a great chin, fast hands, a good combination of youth and experience and his only loss was a close contentious decision vs Parker. Wallin being legit top 10 circa 2023 is more debateable. He ate from that Fury fight for a long time without doing much else.
Same Chisora that Wallin lost to just dropped a decision to a shot deontay wilder I told all of you goofies that Wallin was never top 10 in reality and the rankings were completely off the mark @Dynamicpuncher @SouthpawsRule @MaccaveliMacc @Dorrian_Grey But go ahead and claim Wallin is a top 10 heavyweight. The polls have already ruled in my favor
On paper, it's the morbidly obese even by his standards, semi-untrained Ruiz in the 2019 rematch, in the big Saudi ring. In reality, it's 39 year old Povetkin in 2018.
I suspect top 20. Going 12 vs Fury and winning a few rounds, schooling Breazeale and outboxing Gassiev, without shipping a KD, counts for something. AJ had beat him in sparring and amateur bouts previously, which made it more of a mismatch. Wallin was mentally finished after that bad loss and big payday.
I wasn’t wrong, you were. As usual. Now go bother someone else. Also a small question: how did you feel when quitter Dubois won a war against Wardley?
You were wrong about Wallin being a top 10 heavyweight thats all that matters. Thats what this whole thread was about. Dubois and Wardley are both genuine top 10 heavyweights no matter how you slice it
Jake Paul = top 200 Francis Ngannou = top 100 Otto Wallin = top 25 Robert Helenius = top 20-25 Jermaine Franklin jr = top 35 Kubrat Pulev = top 18-20 Andy Ruiz jr = top 7-9 Alexander Povetkin = top 10 Joseph Parker = top 5-6 Carlos Takam = top 15 Wladimir Klitschko = 3 or 4 Eric Molina = top 36-38 Dominic Breazeale = top 30 Charles Martin = top 25-28 Dillian Whyte = top 15-18 I'm a fan of Anthony Joshua, this is realistically the places of eachs of his wins against his opponents in world championships and his last opponents I think the worst ranked opponent was Paul + Ngannou + Eric Molina in terms of potential but he was a little bit superior than a top 40 at the times when AJ beat him. If you compare with Wilder it's more impressive, and Joshua clearly have a better career. Only the fight with Paul was too much and pretty ridiculous.
He will quit again eventually and I give Dubois credit for beating a real top 10 heavyweight. The Wardley win is impressive