90s Comeback Foreman -Is Wilder Too Live For Him?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Jun 20, 2026.


Who wins?

  1. Foreman

    67.4%
  2. Wilder

    27.9%
  3. Undecided

    4.7%
  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You said he didn't have a chin dumba$$ is English your second language? Qawi bruised up Foreman's head, you do need toilet paper to wipev your own because it's full of $hit along with the load in your pants.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You seem to have mistaken Moorer and Qawi. Put the booze down and figure out life.
     
  3. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder of Fury I, Foreman of Holyfield

    Wilder comes out jabbing, gets outjabbed early, starts loading up.

    It ends up being a Lyle-fest. Foreman floors Wilder twice in the second but gets foiled by the bell. Foreman hits the floor hard in the 4th, gets up slow, and gets a measured look from the ref.

    From this point Foreman starts upping the ante and, though he gets badly staggered at the end of the 5th round he comes out for blood in the 6th and knocks Wilder out cold after masterfully feinting a wide jab and instead launching a terrifying uppercut.
     
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  4. GoldenHulk

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    I think you took to many shots to the head, first you said that Qawi was a no chin fat ass, then you said Foreman had to resort to fouling to beat him. Oh, and that fight didn't go ten rounds either. You must have dementia or Alzheimer's.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    It's mildly amusing that you're still rambling after I told you that the original post was about Moorer.
     
  6. greynotsoold

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    Pretty interesting thread up to where the bickering started; I found something to agree with in just about every comment.
    Looking at comeback George, I think that the version that fought Holyfield is substantially different than the one the lumbered around after the notably fleet of foot Tommy Morrison. The Alex Stewart fight fell in between those two and George had troubles there.
    Could Wilder do what Stewart did? I think that Stewart had boxing skills that Wilder did not, but Wilder had two advantages over Stewart. The first, obviously, is his right hand and that type of power is defining at heavyweight. The second is that Wilder fought in a weaker era where he was able to get by with not much more than a right hand.
    As to the fight, does Wilder have the skill to keep george away from him? Certainly if we are talking about the George that fought Tommy, maybe not if it is the one that fought Holyfield. Keep in mind that George had a very good jab at that stage of his career; Wilder didn't jab so good, at least not in any fight of his that I have seen. I'm guessing that he would be looking to counter Foreman's jab with his right hand but here's the thing about that...
    To throw a right hand you have to set your feet and that is when the guy looking to get close will be looking to counter. If I know that george and the people around him know that: I would be telling George to be looking to keep the toe of his left foot close to the toe of Wilder's left foot and stick that jab hard on him. Make Wilder react. You are trying to see how Wilder reacts to that telephone pole jab. In my opinion he won't be catching it and jabbing back because catching it would move him. So he is going to move to try and set an angle for his right hand- I never saw much in the way of slipping punches in his game- and now George and his people are looking for the trap to make him throw the right hand when they want him to. That is where timing trumps a speed advantage, and timing can be 'slow' if it is right.
    Another thing is this; even if Wilder lands his bomb, it is very unlikely that one punch from him will end this fight. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Wilder hit George and shake him, go into his 'finishing' windmill and get nailed and have the tide of the fight turn completely. It wouldn't surprise me to see Foreman back him up with his jab and nail Wilder early. But the Holyfield fight took the last of the zip- except for the right hand that hit Moorer- out of Big george. The guy that fought Stewart and morrison and made them look like Billy Conn could certainly do the same against Wilder.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    I’ll remind you that Wilder dropped a h2h top 10 lock with a left hook whereas Foreman dropped a top 30ish heavyweight once during his comeback and failed to drop any other primeish top 300 heavyweights.
     
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  8. slash

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    Fo' Sho'
     
  9. slash

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    NM (double reply thingy)
     
  10. GoldenHulk

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    He thinks he $hits ice cream and his a$$ is the freezer!
     
  11. greynotsoold

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    Are you talking about when he dropped Fury in the 12th round? That left hook hit him on the way down after getting hit with a right hand.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    Yes, it was devastating.

    He also put away Scott with a left hook for his first KO loss (not interested in the conspiracy theories).