Usyk is vacating all the belts!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    That isn't how it works. The action is supposed to be continuos.
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not when you're missing a mouth guard.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    No, you don't give the guy 20 seconds to put his mouth guard back in.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last I checked there was no rule against it. It takes time to recover and install a mouth guard, and it's not something you can do while your opponent is trying to punch you.

    You're being unreasonable.
     
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  5. LoveThis

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    In the case of young Joshua it might have been even more :-D

    On the other hand I saw referees shove the dirty mouthpiece from the ground into fighter's mouths, too. Infections be damned.

    Depends on who it is, i guess :-D
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Actually, this is utterly ridiculous.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course it isn't. You don't get to beat 3 quality opponents and expect to go down as great. It takes a lot more than that.

    Mike Tyson had a resume comparable to any Usyk opponent by 1987. I've never heard anyone claim he was great by that stage and should have retired because he had nothing left to prove.

    All I've argued is that Usyk victims failed to leave strong legacies and are unlikely to go down as great. Not Usyks fault but it is what it is.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's 39 years old and established himself as one of the best pound for pound fighters ever. It's reasonable to say at this point of his life, "I've had enough".
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIM GOING DOWN AS GREAT. I said he was historically significant, and he is. Especially now.

    You made this up in your head.

    Mike Tyson's resume is teeming with guys whose resume does not equal Gassiev's good wins.
     
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  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And clean the mouth guard as well. The ref will always do that.
     
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  12. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only if there is a break in the action. If the fighter is beating his opponent up and has him hurt, referees tend to let the action go. As they should.
     
  13. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. No idea why catch is acting like it's some grand conspiracy to give Rico more time when he proceeded to wave the fight off after the bell.
     
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  14. Kiwi Casual

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    There was a break in the action. He beat the count, the ref saw he had no mouthguard and put it back in.

    The idea that the ref should knowingly restart the action after a knockdown with no mouthguard is insane.
     
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  15. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is he historically significant? If anyone with a rating and a quality win or two is historically significant than he would qualify but that seems like a very low bar.

    Is Michael Grant historically significant?

    I think in 25 years many hardcore boxing fans won't be aware of Gassiev in any context outside of being a guy Usyk beat at cruiserweight
     
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