Who are the contenders for the greatest single weight division career?

How about Marciano ? His case is a bit weird, but I think there's an argument to be made. I've said before that he's basically a small Heavyweight who beat the 2 greatest Light Heavyweights of all time when they were still good and were basically the same size as him. Plus he did beat the actual 200+ HW champ of the world who's usually ranked around the top 20 HWs or thereabouts, and retired undefeated.

Nothing too crazy when speaking strictly at HW, but pound for pound he gets a big boost imo.

 

Well unfortunately for The Rock, I think he does lose the Louis and Wilde debate. Louis has almost as many fights at the world level as Rocky has fights in his career, and Wilde KO'd a world class Featherweight while he himself weighed 105 lbs, which is a nasty P4P achievement. Though I've controversially stated that I'd have Marciano over Hagler P4P before.

You think he might be top 5 for this ?

 

Lennox Lewis did beat every man he faced. And he faced real, heavyweight, virile, young men for a long, long time.

 

Yeah that sounds about right. I'd have Moore and Charles over Lynch and Pal Moore, personally. I think the difference in class is just way too great. Plus Moore was like 55-1-2 or something like that the past 6 years, which is insane. Super underrated win imo, especially P4P. Moore seemed not to age until Marciano got to him, and the mfer still went on to fight for almost a decade more, even if his form was never the same as it was before Rocky.

I think Wilde's win over Joe Conn is just bananas though. People on general lose their **** at Usyk overcoming 20 lbs disadvantages when he's a 220+ fighter. Wilde was under the modern Straweight/Mininumweight/Embryoweight/Whateverweight when he beat one of the best Featherweights in the world, and it was a total beatdown. It's like an automatic 50 spot jump in the P4P queue, especially when you consider how hard a historical jump Featherweight has been to former Flyweights and even Bantamweights. Wilde doing what he did is unreal.

And yeah I did make a thread about it. Short version of it is, both guys' best wins are over men coming up a division, but Marciano's guys are better. I'd also have Walcott as a better singular win than any natural MW Hagler beat like Antuofermo and Minter. And I don't think Hagler's depth consists of fighters good enough to overcome the gap.

 

Barbados I’m assuming ?

 

Look at Louis against Marciano. That is not virility.

 

Chris John- Featherweight
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam- Flyweight
Kostya Tszyu- Junior Welterweight
you could say Aaron Pryor but he had some comeback fights above 140 after he lost the title.

 

Willie Pep

 

Absolutely Goo.

 

I second the Kid Pambele Cervantes pick