Harry Greb V The Under 200 lbs Champs?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Corbett
    Fitzsimmons
    Hart
    Burns
    Dempsey
    Tunney
    Schmeling
    Sharkey
    Braddock
    Louis
    Walcott
    Charles
    Marciano
    Patterson
    Johansson
    L Spinks
    How many,and which ones if any, does he beat?
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Let's assume a championship length fight and remember that Greb often came on late despite the idea of some that he was a frontrunner.

    Fitzsimmons -beats
    Hart - beats
    Burns - beats
    Dempsey - loses
    Tunney - likely loses. Greb himself admitted that Tunney had gotten too big for him to handle
    Schmeling - loses
    Sharkey - beats
    Braddock - beats
    Louis - come on...
    Walcott - if he catches Joe on one of his many off days he wins
    Charles - at heavyweight, he loses
    Marciano - loses
    Patterson - loses
    Johansson - beats
    L Spinks - beats
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    My list would be exactly the same
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    I honestly think that he could have beaten a lot of them.
     
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  5. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    This
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I've got to be honest. As an American, culturally, I have never been comfortable with any person being under 200 pounds.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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  8. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    I think Greb, great as he was, gets too much obligatory passes... his Era was more stylistic wise Rough, Tough and Resolute capable men.

    yes, there were some stylist exceptions but by the mid 20s Boxing/Boxers were becoming more Athletic Stylist and 1st Class Boxers.

    Greb would be fit & capable in any Era, but as the decades evolved he would be relegated to remaining in his 'own' lane, i.e MW cum L-HW and into the 80s and beyond a WW cum MW.

    he has little to no chance against most of the Top HW's, if not all of them.

    obligatory expected gratitude's, doesn't change the evolutionary landscape of 1st Class Athletic Boxers, many of which too encapsulate the same attributes associated with Greb's Era - Rough, Tough and Resolute capable men as well.

    :nonono