Muhammad Ali (Zaire) vs prime Jersey Joe Walcott

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Jan 15, 2025.


Who wins?

  1. Ali KO/TKO

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  2. Ali PTS

    45.0%
  3. Walcott KO/TKO

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Walcott PTS

    5.0%
  1. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :qmeparto:

    Head trainer is wild.
     
  2. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His '72 - 74 run was very good.

    As much as I like the Cinderella Man romanticism of JJW eventually beating Charles for the title, I don't see how he doesn't get KO'd or dropped a few times en route to a comprehensive loss. The Ali that beat Foreman punched with authority and wasn't afraid to jostle with George in the clinch.

    JJW is a cute stylist but other than a few cake walks and sneaky punches, I don't find myself rating him as highly as some do - around that Patterson, Charles, Machen sized fighter, he's holding his own - Ali was 6'3, notably strong and well conditioned when he trained hard and knew how to implement his size against a smaller fighter, given his hand speed and ability to hit hard enough when he planted his feet, what is JJW going to realistically do to win?
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I was wondering if anyone else would get it :lol:
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Walcott is one of the worst heavyweight title holders in the history of the division, including splintered titles.

    Ali is the best.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Listen, my ex used to tell me that love is unconditional. And that this is what proves that I have never loved anyone.
    ...Anyway, so I'm going to have to go with Ali here.
     
  6. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali of the Shavers fight beats him.
     
  7. McCallumsJab

    McCallumsJab Member Full Member

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    I disagree, Norton in a fair world beat Ali twice, which I can't see Walcott doing once.

    Also if you look at Norton from post Garcia loss from 70-78 - outside of Foreman he's incredibly dominant beating Ali and pushing Holmes to inches from a loss too.
     
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  8. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Against Elmer Ray, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano, Walcott fought a combined 61 rounds. Ken Norton, under the same conditions, goes 3, combined.