RJJ vs Ingemar Johansson RJJ comes in at 185-190 lbs

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Who wins and how

  1. RJJ KO/TKO

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  2. Johansson KO/TKO

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  3. RJJ Decision

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  4. Johansson Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Chatgpt picks Jones via Decision for the following reasons and I happen to agree:

    Jones over Johansson by decision
    Roy Jones Jr. vs. Ingemar Johansson
    I favor Jones, about 65–35.
    Johansson was a genuine heavyweight champion with a devastating straight right—the “Hammer of Thor.” That punch gives him a clear path to victory because Jones often relied on reflexes, carried his hands low, and pulled away from punches. One misjudgment could end the fight.
    However, Johansson was less complete and adaptable than Patterson. Jones would have substantial advantages in:
    hand and foot speed
    defensive reactions
    combination punching
    creativity and angles
    ability to score without remaining in range
    Johansson would look to establish his jab and line Jones up for the right. Jones would probably recognize that threat quickly, circle away, draw the right, and counter Johansson during his reset. Johansson was not especially aggressive unless he believed he had positioned an opponent for the right hand.
    Prediction: Jones by unanimous decision, perhaps with Johansson being dropped by a counter hook or rapid combination.
    A Jones stoppage is possible, but Johansson was a true heavyweight and Jones would likely remain cautious. Johansson’s chance is much more concentrated: land one enormous right hand.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jul 18, 2026 at 6:26 PM
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  2. BCS8

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    I wouldn't bet on Jones against any fighter with a big ole punch. I mean, yeah RJJ on points is a fine opinion but nobody would be shocked to see tiny little bits of candy sprayed across the ring if Mjolnur lands on that sugar ass chin.
     
    BCS8, Jul 19, 2026 at 7:33 AM
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  3. Andre2000

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    Even if one thinks RJJ outboxes Ingo it’s still going to be a tight rope walk from go to whoa.

    It would take just one successful connection of the Hammer of Thor to see Roy off.

    Certainly, Roy won’t be getting back up time and again as “Not-so glass chinned” Patterson did.

    Just one taste of the Bingo will suffice to see Roy out cold.
     
    Andre2000, Jul 19, 2026 at 4:09 PM
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  4. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m going with Ingo here. He was a natural heavyweight with a substantial heavyweight punch, at least the right. RJJ was a tons better fighter but he wasn’t a natural heavyweight and didn’t have a heavyweight chin as far as absorbing the Bingo and staying vertical.
     
    PRW94, Jul 19, 2026 at 7:27 PM
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  5. Claude

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    Ingo has caught some very fast and defensively sound boxers. Unlike John Ruiz, any solid shot he lands could end the fight. I don’t see Jones avoiding him for 12 rounds.
     
    Claude, Jul 19, 2026 at 8:40 PM
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  6. mr. magoo

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    Ordinarily I don’t favor smaller men moving up to beat hard punching heavies. But in this case I’ll make an exception. The difference in speed, skill and athleticism between Jones and Johansson is extremely vast. And Ingo wasn’t a giant like the kind that Roy wanted to avoid in the 2000’s. There would still be a danger however. Floyd Patterson and Eddie Machen were very quick and skilled 180-195 lb men in their primes and Johannson sparked them both. So this isn’t a guaranteed win for Jones .
     
    mr. magoo, Jul 19, 2026 at 9:14 PM
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  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Especially since Roy dangles that left hand at his thigh. That right hand will land clean at some point and that wil be the beginning of the end. That is a sneaky right hand Ingo throws so just don't see Jones able to read it
     
    zadfrak, Jul 20, 2026 at 5:06 AM
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  8. Devon

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    I narrowly favour Jones, but Johansson has a real puncher’s chance. 60/40 type of fight.
     
    Devon, Jul 20, 2026 at 7:03 AM
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I agree with you and Johansson was closer in size to a day before weigh in light heavyweight than to the super heavyweight dreadnoughts of the 90s. Ingo could hurt RJJ but RJJ at 185 would have more than enough pop to put Ingo on the seat of his pants. Especially since he's fast enough to throw the punch at a speed and angle it's difficult to see it coming.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jul 20, 2026 at 12:13 PM
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Ingo was closer in size to a day before weigh in light heavyweight. So he's not the same type of heavyweight as say Anthony Joshua. Usyk is considered a "cruiserweight" and "small man moving up" but he would dwarf Ingo at heavyweight. Even the cruiserweight Usyk would be bigger.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jul 20, 2026 at 12:45 PM
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