Holyfield or Usyk at cruiserweight?

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Who had the better crusier run?

  1. Usyk

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  2. Holyfield

    11.5%
  3. Same difference/can't split it.

    15.4%
  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    If I am counting right, they both beat five champs.

    HOLYFIELD

    Dwight Muhammed Qawi- 41(23)-13-1, much loved buzzsaw of a fighter with wins over Matthew Saad MuhammedX2, Leon Spinks, and Ricky Parkey. WBC LHW and WBA cruiser champ. Big man in a legendary era of LHWs, and also gets respect for giving Holyfield, Michael Spinks, and George Foreman hell in losing efforts.

    Dwight Muhammed Qawi II- faded but still formidable version of above

    Carlos De Leon- 53 (34)- 8, Undervalued two-time WBC cruiser champ with wins over Leon Spinks, Yanqui Lopez, and Marvin Camel X2. Personal note: he fought back when it was a lot harder to see the fights, but I always read about him and respected him.

    Ossie Occasio- 23 (12)-13-1. Inaguaral WBA cruiserweight champ with wins over good heavyweight contenders Jimmy YoungX2 (!), Pierre Coetzer, and also Dwight Muhammed Qawi. Also undervalued for ones he lost but maybe should have won (Ray Mercer, SD) and Drew (Dokes). A Larry Holmes contender.

    Ricky Parkey- 22 (16)-20, Holy won the IBF strap from Ricky Parkey, whose best wins appear to be his title vicoty over Lee Roy Murphy, and also managed an early win against Renaldo Snipes. I'll be honest, if I remember the other three with great fondness, I don't remember this fighter at all. No disrespect intended.

    USYK

    Mairis Briedis- 28 (20)-3, three time cruiserweight champ, WBO and IBF, who arguably gave Usyk his toughest fight...certainly top three. Wins over Marco Huck, Krysztof Glowacki, Yuniel Dorticos, Norair Mikaeljan (a bit dodgy), and throw in Manuel Charr as his best heavyweight win.

    Murat Gassiev- 34 (27) -2, still active, former WBA and IBF Crusierweight champion of the world with wins over Yuniel Dorticos, Denis Lebedev, Krystof Wlodarczyk. Went on to add the WBA heavyweight championship to his list of accomplishments by beating Kubrat Pulev for the "regular," though, to be fair, many fans do no consider this to be a legit reign yet.

    Krysztof Glowacki- 32 (20)-4, Respectable and well-liked but smaller WBO champ with wins over Marco Huck and Steven Cunningham. His professional career crashed hard, but he also rebounded with a 2-2 MMA career. I think he had covid, but the competition at cruiser just got too big for him.

    Tony Bellew- 30 (20)-3 WBC cruiserweight champ with wins over rival Nathan Cleverly, IIunga Junior Makabu, and David Haye X2. The fight was a very intriguing one because Tony had left his championship behind to engage in his winning fued with Haye at heavyweight, and he was one of the few who could make an argument for facing Usyk as a peer. You love the Bomber and you know it, and no, his tattoo has nothing to do with the tragedy at the Ariana Grande Concert, if you were wondering.

    Marco Huck- 44 (28)-5. WBO champ had seen better days, but is notable as co-holding the record for most cruiserweight title defenses at 13. Big wins over Ola AfolabiX3, Firat AslanX2, Denis Lebedev (a bit dodgy), Victor Emilio Ramirez, and gets a lot of mileage out of losing one to Povetkin that a little over half the crowd thought he won. Fight with Usyk was a bit comical because, much like the Bellew and Dubois II fights later, it was billed as boxer vs puncher, Huck pushed the horses, and Usyk made it a short night by punching with the puncher. Usyk later cited Huck as the only opponent he hated. Don't push the horses.

    So, that is is. Both guys also beat a handful of contenders we don't have to get too much into. Which is the more murderous murderer's row?
     
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  2. Ike

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    Interesting question and a fair analysis of the best opponents faced by these two great champions. I usually name both of them when discussing the best cruiserweight of all time. I also do this for the best lightweight of all time, where I point to Duran and Leonard. Or when someone asks me which middleweight fighter was greater, Hagler or Monzon, I say we're right there, a matter of opinion (both behind Greb and Robinson in my rankings). And for the best cruiserweight of all time, we're right there between Holyfield and Usyk in my opinion, so I'll say both.
     
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  3. shrap

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    Michael Hunter is definitely worth a shout for Usyk too. He went on to stop an undefeated Bakole in a really tough scrap and was a solid contender at CW.
     
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    I love Hunter and wanted his career to take off because I followed his dad.

    I just didn't want to get too much into the weeds with the contenders. Mchunu is also a guy who should have won a portion of the strap, and on Holy's side, Tillman, and Mutti who contended, are good shouts.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    It's a great answer.
     
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    Fair call. The thing is Hunter would be a top win for Holyfield which is why I'd say Usyk is clearly the better cruiser when Hunter isn't even on the shortlist for Usyk's cruiser run.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

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    Yeah, Usyk is pretty much winning this thing by massacre, which, even though I picked him, surprises me a bit.
     
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    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    Holyfield
    But the reason will shock you.
    While Usyka will one day be surpassed by someone in the 200lbs category; No one will ever beat Holyfield in the 190lbs category.
    Because that category no longer exists.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    That's some creative reasoning!
     
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  12. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have Usyk by a narrow margin and I also think he would defeat Holy on points.

    Does anyone think either would have lost if they had switched opponents?
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    Holy struggled more greatly against his smaller opponents...the split win against Qawi, the loss to Moorer, the brutal knockdown to Bert Cooper...I could see him having an even longer night with Brieidis, though ultimately winning.

    Nothing on Holy's card to trouble Usyk, althouhg Qawi as a pressure fighter is a great fight. But at 5'7", I just don't see him giving Usyk the same long night he gave Holy.
     
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  14. Heisenberg

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    All of Usyk’s opposition were pretty much prime and on their home soil. Holyfield is an absolute legend but effectively cleared up an ageing group of fighters in a then dull as dishwater division.
     
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