Gilberto Ramirez vs Joe Frazier

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Who wins and how

  1. Frazier KO/TKO

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  2. Zurdo KO/TKO

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  3. Frazier Decision

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  4. Zurdo Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Chatgpt thinks Frazier stops Zurdo Ramirez.


    Gilberto “Zurdo” Ramírez vs. Joe Frazier
    Assuming Zurdo enters around 195–200 pounds:
    Frazier by knockout, probably rounds 7–10.
    Zurdo’s size, southpaw stance, body punching, and combination volume would create some interesting early problems. He is taller than Frazier and could try to keep Joe at the end of his right jab while throwing long left hands and uppercuts.
    But Zurdo is not elusive enough to keep Frazier outside consistently. He often fights at a deliberate pace and spends substantial time directly in front of opponents. Against Frazier, that would allow Joe to slip under the jab, crowd him, and begin hammering the body.
    Zurdo is durable, but Frazier’s left hook carries genuine heavyweight power. Once Joe gets inside, Zurdo would struggle with the pace and physicality. He would also be vulnerable when backing straight toward the ropes.
    Pick: Frazier TKO 8.
    Odds: Frazier 80–20.
    Zurdo could land clean punches because Frazier was hittable while advancing, but he lacks the movement or heavyweight-level power needed to keep Joe respectful for long.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jul 26, 2026 at 3:20 PM
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  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This is a one-sided and relatively quick beat down. Ramirez does not have the power or the skills to beat prime Joe Frazier. I’ll go with Frazier inside of six rounds.
     
    Fogger, Jul 26, 2026 at 5:25 PM
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier would get inside fairly easily against the basic Ramirez, who does have solid fundamentals, but that isn’t nearly enough against a relentless ATG like Frazier.

    Ramirez is decent at a lot, but not special at anything in particular. He can’t stay away from Frazier, but he also probably can’t hurt him either, and Frazier would be throwing a lot more punches, and would also have a lot more firepower, which means it’s only going to go one way.

    Frazier 5th round TKO with Ramirez’s corner throwing in the towel, Ramirez quitting or the ref jumping in.
     
    Devon, Jul 27, 2026 at 5:50 AM
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  4. Fergy

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    Frazier beats him up.
     
    Fergy, Jul 27, 2026 at 10:24 AM
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  5. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    What is this match up?

    I mean if one is serious about this fight, Frazier does everything better than Zurdo. And I'm talking much better...
     
    Ice8Cold, Jul 27, 2026 at 10:52 AM
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    So you admit chatgpt was right?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jul 27, 2026 at 1:17 PM
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep but id come to that conclusion with out it.
     
    Fergy, Jul 27, 2026 at 1:24 PM
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  8. Boxed Ears

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    :lol: :lol:
     
    Boxed Ears, Jul 27, 2026 at 4:51 PM
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  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zurdo has as much chance of lasting 8 with a prime Frazier as I do.

    Joe would have obliterated that bum inside of 3.
     
    Xplosive, Jul 27, 2026 at 11:40 PM
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