Gemini predicts Vitali stops prime Muhammad Ali. What say thou?

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Who wins and how

  1. Muhammad KO/TKO

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  2. Klitchsko KO/TKO

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  3. Muhammad Decision

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  4. Klitchsko Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I just put vitality vs ali. I didn't feed it anything
     
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  3. Andre2000

    Andre2000 Member Full Member

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    A few days back I input 65 Ali vs prime Vitaly.

    While Gemini entertained several complexions and outcomes it ultimately settled on Ali via close decision in a chess match.

    I wonder if it depends on which side of the bed Gemini gets up from on any given day. :)
     
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  4. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali on points probably, but Vitali would take some rounds on work rate later on in the fight due to Ali being forced to move so much, and he might push it relatively close.

    Vitali did know how to use his advantages better than any of the taller guys Ali fought, and Ali may not be able to dart in and out of range as quick with his feet come the later rounds, so he may be forced to giving up some rounds later on.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When is prime Vitali Klitschko? Because, technically, it wasn't when he returned to boxing. In his prime, he was stopped twice himself by Byrd and Lewis. (And his iron chin and suffocating punch volume didn't prevent him from losing to those two guys.)

    Also, wouldn't Ali be closer to his prime in 1966 or 1967? He was only 23 in 1965.

    Right?

    Finally, any AI that says Ali would 'fade late" or "wear down" needs to be uploaded the 15th rounds of Ali fights. There wasn't a lot of fading. He dominated Terrell over 15. Knocked out Bonavena in the 15th. Stopped Wepner in the 15th. Beat Frazier so bad in the 14th he couldn't come out for the 15th. Almost had Shavers out in the 15th. Engaged in the round of the year (Round 15) against Leon Spinks when Ali was near the end.

    Ali didn't tend to fade late. On the contrary, his strategy was often to start slow and take his opponent into the later rounds. Not start quick, like the AI said, because he faded late himself.

    Considering Vitali never went 15 rounds in his life, I think Ali would try to take Vitali late, as well.
     
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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sounds about right.

    I'd pick Ali, but Vitali would make him