Dwight Qawi Muhammad vs Floyd Patterson

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What will be the outcome?

  1. Qawi Muhammad KO

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  2. Qawi Muhammad SD

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  3. Qawi Muhammad UD

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  4. Qawi Muhammad MD

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  5. Patterson KO

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  6. Patterson SD

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  7. Patterson UD

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  8. Patterson MD

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  9. Draw

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  1. Jinjinn

    Jinjinn Member Full Member

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    15 Rounds? Both around 190.
    Who Will Win This Matchup?
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Qawi is a great fighter for mine and would invariably give a fine account of himself. I like Patterson here, i think his lightning fast hands will bother Dwight and Patterson carries immense power for his weight. I don't know that Dwight carries enough punch and i think Pattersons offensive danger won't allow Dwight to build up enough of a sustained attack to grind him down.

    Decision, late TKO?
     
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 175lbs, probably Qawi, at 190lbs probably Patterson.

    Patterson isn’t gonna be outjabbing him from range, he’s probably gonna go at Qawi, and Qawi is more dynamic in the pocket, he has more ways of making you fall onto counters, and had an excellent punch selection, and was brilliant at setting up punches over the top.

    That uppercut would work for him here, the shoulder roll as Patterson opens up square on, and he’d be able to have success using that to counter.

    Patterson may be able to open up that shell with blistering speed at times, but I just believe Qawi has a bit more variety with his skill in the pocket/mid-range. He can measure you and line you up, he can lead with any punch, he can create angles, he was great at opening up opportunities and being creative with his offence, and he was creative with using his defence to set up his offence.

    In general, I feel he was that bit more creative than Paterson IMO, and that’s ultimately what it’d come down to with them inevitably being in the pocket. If Patterson had better long range fundamentals like Harold Johnson for example, I’d say he probably wouldn’t need to be super creative, but he doesn’t have that to enough of a degree to be able to rely on it against Qawi.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Floyd's speed and power would win him this
    Maybe a late ko in an exciting fight.
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have Patterson winning in a very hard fought fun fight. Patterson's speed and quicker combos gets the better of Qawi.
     
  6. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow. A fight I've never joined the dots to make. What a banger this would be. Floyd by clear but competitive decision. Floyd is criminally underrated because of the nature of three of his defeats...
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hypothetical winner: Peak Floyd Patterson (circa 1960) by decision or late stoppage.
    Tale of the tape (peak versions)
    Aspect
    Floyd Patterson (1960)
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi (1985–86)
    Height / Reach
    6'0" / 71"
    5'6.5" / 71"
    Typical weight
    ~185–190 lbs (natural light-heavy/heavy)
    ~185–190 lbs (cruiserweight peak)
    Style
    Peek-a-boo, elite hand speed, mobility, explosive power, good jab
    Relentless pressure, heavy head movement, crab/shell defense, volume punching, strong body work
    Chin / durability
    Good but historically vulnerable to big punchers
    Excellent; absorbed heavy shots from Holyfield, Spinks, etc.
    Key strengths
    Speed differential, one-punch power, ring generalship
    Closing distance, inside fighting, stamina, awkward angles
    Why Patterson wins most scenarios
    Speed and range control: Patterson’s hand and foot speed were elite for any era. He could jab, circle, and land explosive combinations (especially the left hook) before Qawi consistently closed the gap. Qawi’s pressure worked best against stationary or slower targets; Patterson was neither at his peak.
    Power edge: Patterson carried genuine one-shot knockout power even against bigger heavyweights. Qawi was durable and a high-volume pressure fighter, but he was stopped by Holyfield and Foreman later in his career. A clean Patterson left hook or right hand early or mid-fight is a real threat.
    Boxing IQ and adaptability: Patterson (trained by Cus D’Amato) was a skilled boxer-puncher who could switch between out-boxing and explosive offense. He had the tools to keep Qawi at the end of the jab and counter the rushes.
    Size and leverage: Although both would weigh similarly in a fantasy catchweight, Patterson’s extra height and length give him better leverage and the ability to create space.
    Qawi’s path to victory
    Qawi makes it competitive and ugly if he successfully crowds Patterson, works the body early, and turns it into a high-volume phone-booth fight. His head movement, feints, and relentless pressure could frustrate Patterson and potentially expose the occasional defensive lapses that bigger punchers (Liston, Johansson) exploited. If the fight goes deep and Patterson tires or gets drawn into trading, Qawi’s engine and inside skill become major factors. A late stoppage or close decision for Qawi is possible but the less likely outcome.
    Most likely result
    Patterson controls the distance for the majority of the fight with the jab and footwork, lands the cleaner, harder shots, and wins a clear decision (or scores a late TKO if Qawi’s pressure opens him up). Qawi has his moments and makes Patterson work, but the speed and power gap favors the two-time heavyweight champion in a pure fantasy peak-vs-peak matchup.
    This is, of course, speculative—styles, eras, and conditioning make any cross-era prediction imperfect. Boxing fans have debated this exact pairing for years with similar conclusions favoring Patterson’s athletic edge.

    From Grok
     
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