Old Guys And Manny Pacquaio

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Neither Errol Spence Jr., Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua looked good in their fights over the weekend. In March of this year Nonito Donaire was beaten up and forced to quit and a month later essentially same thing happened to Juan Francisco Estrada.

    Nothing is particularly wrong with these results. All of these guys are older and, since the beginning of time, this is what happens when boxers get old. They get slower, they are more easily hit, and they are more easily hurt. They cannot take advantage of the flaws of their opponents the way they could when they were younger.

    I say all of this to point out how special it was that at the age of 46 Manny Pacquiao was able to come up with a well earned draw with a world champion after a four year layoff. It may not be up there with Ray Leonard coming back after three years to beat Marvin Hagler but, to be fair, Leonard was considerably younger than Pacquiao was.

    After the fight, there were a healthy amount of people on here giving credit to Manny but a lot of folks were instead talking about the qualities that Mario Barrios lacked. It is true that Mario is not the greatest champion in the world, but he’s a high-quality fighter. In retrospect after seeing the results of the last three or four months, I think what Manny did was rather amazing.
     
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  2. DobyZhee

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    I want a mega match with Gervonta Davis

    I also think he's not going to be put out to pasture unless someone knocks him out.

    Wasn't satisfied with the Ugas fight.

    One of a kind fighter..we will never see a fighter like that in our lifetime.

    I don't think he was on PEDS but he definitely was on supplements. If I'm a world class athlete ..I'll take all the supplements in the world

    I also don't think the KO streak mattered either. Those guys were definitely weight drained. Hind sight is a mofo
     
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  3. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    Manny Pacquaio drew with an email champion. Barrios never won the belt nor defended it. Pacquaio would get knocked out vs Davis.
     
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  4. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I’m not quite sure what did Gervonta Davis comment had to do with my post but you could be right.
     
  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And what would have happened if Pac had fought, say, Shakur? Or Haney?
     
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  6. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    Rumoured to be in negotiations to fight.
     
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  7. DobyZhee

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    I think turquish would make this fight
     
  8. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny "P4P" has a case for being the greatest fighter whose ever lived.

    Part of it is Barrios is just not that good compared to the previous world champs Manny fought. Barrios was Manny's tallest opponent and he beat Ugas after he beat Manny. That was Ugas's last fight and the boxrec fan cards say Ugas won 4 of the 5 first rounds there. With Barrios scoring a 10-8 in Round 2. The judges gave Barrios 3 of the first 5 so it paints a more dominating picture. Turns 8-4 comeback into 10-2 near shutout.

    Delving into Barrios v Ugas because that fight is an outlier for his career.
     
  9. bjl12

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    No. This is exactly what Tank wants, a legend handed to him. Tank doesnt deserve that. Tank has to rematch Pitbull and Roach. Drew w Pitbull and Lost to Roach.
     
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