Where would a victory over 2026/2027 AJ rank on Fury's win record?

"To me it seems Fury really didn't have many relevant and dangerous opponents."

This is an ignorant statement. Champ Wlad away and champ Wilder away x3 were relevant and dangerous opponents, and Fury was the underdog 3 times in those 4 fights. Champ Usyk x2 was a relevant and dangerous opponent, and was the favourite in the rematch. So that is 6 fights just there, all against likely future HoF's, with two opponents and 3 fights being against widely considered ATG's, with 4 of those fights against ATG punchers (Joshua may be in that category too, and he's also a likely HoF). How many HW champs can you name who had at least 5 fights as the underdog?

"He won't even be close to the relevance of the klitschko or wilder wins or the first chisora one either"

So "Joshua 1 won't even be close to the relevance of Chisora 1"?

Lunatic statement. You even contradict it by arguing how dangerous Joshua is even at this stage, surely more dangerous than Chisora ever was:

"if old fury actually manages to even win against joshua, as joshuas punches are as dangerous to his by now very hittable self as his boxing ability is to joshua"

This is a combination of scrambled arguments, seemingly grasping at anything to discredit Fury.

"And yes I also feel that tyson is seen as big in lewis' legacy"

Exactly. And Lewis was prime, whereas near-36 Tyson was basically shot. That's a far bigger prime gap than between Fury and Joshua now.

"If that is the case I think the fight will just be forgotten"

There is almost no chance of that. If one of them gets KO'd it will be replayed endlessly, talked about for decades and referenced as "the last fight of the post-Klitschko golden era". It's a fight with enormous interest even now, hence it's going to be one of the biggest money fights of all time, potentially top 3.

If Fury beats Joshua then he has an ATG HW resume, no question. Only Usyk is ahead in the last 23 years. Wlad would be the next closest but at that point it's an easy case that he's behind Fury, and the likes of Vitali and Joshua are nowhere near.

 

They're crap, dishonest points. "Chisora 1 was a much more relevant win than Fury beating Joshua would be".

 

I'm not even going to bother reading it. You don't believe it, he doesn't believe it, no one believes it.

 

1. How many "big opponents" did Hall of Famer Riddick Bowe have? 1? What about Hall of Famer Vitali Klitschko? 1? Or ATG Wlad? 2?

Fury has 3, about to be 4. Claiming Fury did not have many dangerous opponents, when he was the underdog 5 times and is on the cusp of his 7th fight against a likely hall of famer, is insane.

"Fury did not want to fight Usyk"

This is pathetic.

"I really appreciate Fury's win over Wlad but PED's..."

Stop lying.

"Btw i can't imagine fury being the underdog in wilder 2"

He was. Fury had received much more damage than Wilder in fight 1, was 1 second or a subjective ref call removed from a KO loss, Fury was coming off a war with Wallin, the rematch was in Vegas etc. Fury was the betting underdog vs Chisora 1, Wlad, Wilder 1, Wilder 2 and Usyk 2, and would have been vs Haye if Haye hadn't ducked it a week out.

2. Fury-Chisora 1 is astronomically less relevant than Fury-Joshua, yet you claimed it's "far more relevant". And even by your own implicit admission, AJ is much more dangerous than Chisora, who lacked the size, athleticism, skill and power to do anything much to Fury.

Even if they don't fight to their best, a sloppy shootout between Fury and AJ will be hugely exciting, regarded as must-see TV, a top 3 money fight in boxing history. There will be no "crickets".

4. You sound like a miserable person, hating for the sake of it. Fury and Joshua have been great for HW boxing. I don't give a damn about Kabayel or Itauma. Everyone will complain the division is a wasteland when the "big four" are retired. No one is forcing you to watch their fights, or comment on these threads.

"The polls and threads i think i remember around here usually have klitschko higher than Fury."

Of course. Because posters of your exact type, who overwhelmingly slated Wlad back in the day as a boring chinny hypejob wrestler, will inevitably claim "Wlad was so great compared to the current dire crop". It's just a stick to beat the current fighters with combined possibly with nostalgia, despite no one actually wanting to relive the days of Wlad-Mormeck or Wlad-Povetkin.

If/when Fury beats Joshua, it will be an easy argument. Fury would be 4-2-1 vs HoF's, Wlad 0-2, with 5 losses overall.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/tyson-fury-wlad-klitschko.743143/

 

I think the voting consensus is correct that beating Joshua would be Fury's 3rd or 4th best win.

The case for Joshua 1 over Wilder 3 is that even though 35 Wilder is better than 37 Joshua, Fury is way further past his prime now, he'd already fought Wilder twice and demolished him in the previous fight, and Fury-Joshua 1 is a higher pressure event.

 

Usyk has the best HW resume in the history of the sport and this will be recognised in the future, as the old American hype narratives continue to burn out.

The next gen are not that interesting, even though there is ability there. No one cares much about Kabayel, Dubois, Itauma, Hrgovic, Sanchez, and most of them have already been beaten.

When/if Usyk fights and beats Wilder, he will have beaten every HoF HW of his era: Fury x2, AJ x2, Dubois x2, and Wilder

When/if Fury and Joshua fight, Fury will have fought Usyk x2, Wlad, Wilder x3 and Joshua x1/x2

Joshua will have fought Usyk x2, Wlad, Dubois and Fury x1/x2

Wilder will have fought Usyk and Fury x3


This game can be played with previous eras:

Where was Bowe vs Tyson? Bowe vs Lewis?

Lewis vs Tyson when Tyson wasn't on the cusp of 36? When Holyfield wasn't 36-37?

Only Holyfield fought everyone in or around their best. But even there, prime Tyson ducked him by pulling out of their fight with an injury and then going to prison.