Is Usyk a Top 10 Heavyweight of all time?

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  1. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Active Member Full Member

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    People seem entranced by the P4P concept, yet when it's applied at HW it is dismissed.. Usyks HW opposition average weight is 252lbs.. yet he's a natural CW.. Terence Crawsnac gets deified because he beat a 168lb Alvarez despite weighing over 180lbs between camps for YEARS..

    Also, the great Larry Holmes weighed 210lbs as a young HW coming through the ranks (so I'd say he was naturally a little bigger than Usyk) yet his average opponent weight is 216lbs..

    So whatever you think of Usyk he is a giant slayer and his statistics are impressive.. & yes I know weight & statistics aren't the be all and end all but they do add to the story.. & size does matter otherwise boxing wouldn't have divisions or a P4P discussion.

    I'd also add Usyk mainly fought in enemy territory wheras many past HW greats had the luxury of home advantage.
     
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  2. KirkK

    KirkK New Member Full Member

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    Yes. Dominated his time.
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That would be a more compelling argument if these guys didn't keep struggling with much smaller opponents

    Like Joshua losing to Ruiz
    Or Dubois getting dropped three times by former cruiserweight Lerena
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Only if Fury beats Joshua or Joshua beats Fury. One of them has to have a win over the other and it will increase Usyk's stock.
     
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  5. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Undefeated P4P King of online arguments! Full Member

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  6. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, Usyk at 38 was in much better condition at that age than all the greats of the past, but if we want to be honest, he didn't have anything close to the battle scars of most these fighters, so it's hard to judge isn't it?
     
  7. ubareem

    ubareem Member Full Member

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    But the technical ability is generally more advanced now as well. For example, I would pick most top LHWs of today to beat the majority of heavyweights from the 60's-early 70's.

    Lerena, Nistor and Ruiz and so forth are still stocky (and maybe "supplemented" too) guys with some power.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Based on what?
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    How is technical ability more advanced? I personally see the opposite. I see modern fighters less complete than previous eras as far as what they employ technically in a fight.