Joe Louis vs. Moses Itauma, the theory of boxing evolution...

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  1. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Louis—the knockout artist of his era—versus the young, modern-day Powerhouse Moses Itauma: has boxing evolved enough for Moses Itauma to stop Joe Louis in a fantasy fight?
     
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Itauma could be the real deal. But his chin and stamina are unknowns.

    Let's assume Itauma becomes undisputed. In that case, yes, he could beat Louis especially as Louis never faced southpaws. However, even in this instance, Itauama would win not because of boxing "evolution" but because he is a left hander with amazing athleticism, speed and power.

    As it stands now? Louis by ko. Louis punches straighter, faster and crisper. Louis actually has the better technique. So its not "evolution". Itauama has amazing athleticism, is bigger and is a southpaw.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Moses as a prospect and I think he will become Champion, but Joe Louis was the greatest heavyweight ever - resume - ability and power/combo - it's not to say JL couldn't lose to some of the other ATG's. but not an easy task for anyone.

    In modern times = today - Usyk 6'2 220 is the greatest of the era (with only 25 fights)
    Let's see how Moses advances beyond his 14 fights and hopefully builds momentum - then that type of speculation would be warranted.
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Even if Itauma is as good as some people hope, Louis would take him on experience alone right now.

    So how good is he.

    Personally I have high hopes for him.

    He even reminds me of Louis in some ways.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Let him have a couple more fights first.
     
  6. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No matter how great Louis was, if my life depended on it, I'd pick Moses every time, and I think if people are being honest they would agree, he doesn't see the second round if Moses doesn't him to IMO.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Louis destroys him. Being honest with myself.
     
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  8. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, just no.
     
  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Prime Louis vs Unprime Utauma?

    It will be 8-10 years before we see the prime Moses. Let's revisit this topic in 2034.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I wouldn't.
     
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What pray tell would prompt that? His ho hum win over pre-corpse Joe Joyce? or his thrilling decision over the Chinese mummy Zhang. I got it ! The resilience he showed getting knocked out by,,Dubois.? .I'd pick Jerry Quarry over todays squeakyweights
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Levels.
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Some will never see where the puck is going.
     
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Yes just yes end of discussion