Is Fernando Vargas One Of The Best Examples Of A Fighter Ruined Prematurely?

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  1. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol never said he gets credit for a loss

    I said he was beating Mosley and DLH until he wasn’t
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I was shocked by how well he performed against Mosley at that point in time.
     
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  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    same

    It doesn’t matter but I assume Mosley had an off night, cause he smoked him in the rematch
     
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  4. ross

    ross Active Member Full Member

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    I need to go back and rewatch the DLH fight but from what I remember Vargas started strong and DLH got himself back into it by mid rounds. Then they were pretty much trading some rounds but DLH having won more, I do remember DLH using his right hand much more in this fight. Either way Vargas was never gna beat Trinidad or DLH. DLH started at 130 and stopped him on roids and at his own weight 154.
     
  5. kirk

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    This idea that no version of Vargas could ever beat Trinidad seems a bit baseless to me.

    Vargas brought an absolutely peak Trinidad to the brink, at 22 years old, and having had been the distance as a professional a whopping two times.

    The notion a 27 year old Vargas who had been cultivated properly and had grown into his attributes while having sufficient and seasoned experience, couldn't do a couple better rounds than the 22 year old with 20 pro fights (Trinidad had 18 more KOs then Vargas had pro fights) just seems a little baseless.

    As far as a fighter being ruined, 100% yes. Vargas went from never being hurt or down, mature or pro, pre tito, including going toe to toe with Ike for 12 rounds, to being wobbled by the likes of Flores and dropped and in danger of losing to Rivera.

    It must be noted though Vargas's decline wasnt all on Tito. He was a pretty bad alcoholic who lived an undisciplined life, and whose lifestyle out of the ring often effected his weight cuts which left him in an even worse state then he should have been in, and eventually had a degenaring back injury that limited his in ring abilities.

    But yes, had he not been fed to Trinidad after 20 fights age 22, its hard for me not seeing him develop into a better fighter and have a better career to whatever degree, then he had.

    Just imo
     
  6. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I think Vargas would have lost to DLH no matter what. Trinidad? He's one of these guys that I think gets a bit overrated around here. Maybe not as much as some, but enough. Fernando Vargas with a couple of more years might indeed have decisioned or even stopped Tito.
     
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  7. vargasfan1985

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    I had Vargas winning five rounds to four after nine rounds, and I thought he was winning the 10th round until DLH landed that monster left hook and essentially stole the round on all three judges scorecards. So I had it 5 to 5 going into the round Vargas was knocked out in.
     
  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    100% accurate
     
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  9. DobyZhee

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    Auggie Sanchez, David Reid and Errol Spence
     
  10. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was rushed early but I never looked at him as a disappointing "what if" story.

    Missed his potential slightly but he was a fan favourite, impressive early rise in the sport - he had a solid memorable career. Only lost to elites in memorable fights.

    Absorbed way too much punishment but that was his style, he was destined to have a short career.
     
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  11. NoChin

    NoChin Doby Zhee in Three!!! Full Member

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    Fernando Large Mass has ballooned out to a heavyweight post career. He got fat pretty quickly.