Huge Tactical Problem in Itauma vs Hrgovic…

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  1. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    Don't make me afraid, please.

    A stoppage because of a cut would be extremely sad when we finally get such a beautiful matchup.

    I am really looking forward to this. I kind of want both fighters to win. At least I hope they both have a great performance!
     
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  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Handspeed is a difference, though with the shots Hrgovic (stupidly) took flush from say Adelay, it's fair to say he is granite.
    But yeah, speed kills.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Who exactly has destroyed Hrgovic to lead you to this conclusion?
     
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  4. 250lbs

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    if Hgrovic gett past 4 he will win imo. problem with thata video is that the fight against Zhang was a very bad Hgrovic fight, not motivated ,trained bad and appparently losty his father before the fight. It really looked like Hgrovic really didn't want te be in there imo.

    That being said Moses has very fast hands and speed. But i never seen him box against someone who has no respect for him (and at least Hgrovic will not have any fear for him when he begins). I haven't seen his (Moses's) defensive skills other then quickly geting out of range.

    Interesting fight might go either way. I hope the cuts above Hgrovic eye won't open up right away though
     
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  5. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Hrgovic took every punch and headbutt Dubois could throw at him for eight rounds while throwing back. Not sure Itauma runs through him without a brittish stoppage on cuts being the reason.
     
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  6. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    There's a first time for everything my friend. My feelings on this have more to do with Itauma than Hrgovic.

    Boxing history is littered with good aging fighters who had never been obliterated getting destroyed by the next rising superstar.

    I could be wrong, that's the sort of fight outcome I think we'll be looking at here.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I'm not ruling out a quickie British stoppage myself, but when I step back, look at the big picture, taking everything into consideration. I don't think we'll be seeing Filip blasted out of there with relative ease. It'll either go the distance, Filip will be slowly broken down and stopped mid to late or Itauma gasses out, and his hereditary glass chin gets exposed. Because the way I look at it, it's not like Filip has had a long grueling career. He's been a pro for 9 years, half of that time he was taking on light touches that he was blasting out of there in a round or two. Just like Itauma, stopping all but 2 of his first 14 opponents. Unlike he got in there with old man Zhang, which he did enough to eke out. Then the foul filled Dubois mugging occured, but aside from one bad round against Adeleye, it's been smooth sailing since. Also we must take into consideration, his head not being in it early on, his father dying and bad trainers. Since getting with Abel Sanchez, he's looked like a super determined absolute killer. So if he brings that offense is the best defense mentality, this could be a bumpy ride for the chosen one. One thing for sure, I want to see a good competitive all out war and because I'm not in the mood for a blowout.
     
  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    No, a guy called Henry stated he strongly favours Moses but has seen flaws Hrg can exploit.
     
  9. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    I think he's more skilled than both of them, Dubois is very easy to hit.
     
  10. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't see how. His defense is non existent and he switches off mid fight.
     
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  11. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    There are three possible outcomes:

    1) Itauma will defeat Hrgovic fairly (40%)
    2) Itauma will win by British stoppage (50%)
    3) Itauma will win with illegal tactics like Dubois did (for example, head butts TKO), with help from a crooked referee (10%).

    Hrgovic has NO chance fighting in the UK against a Fish Eye's favorite heavyweight up-and-comer. If you have money, bet on a stoppage win for Itauma.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Based on the chinniness of his brother Karol, there's always a chance!
     
  13. PopPellegrino

    PopPellegrino Active Member Full Member

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    The video is good and correctly highlights Hrgovic's and Itauma's weaknesses, but it fails to illustrate just how inexperienced Itauma is. Tyson, who is often compared to Itauma, was 27–0 when he faced Trevor Berbick for the championship, which is basically double Itauma's 14–0 record. Itauma hasn't gone past six rounds, whereas Tyson went 10 rounds with Tillis, Green, and Ribalta. Itauma also doesn't have an extensive amateur career to make up for his lack of experience, failing to get beyond the youth championships. He hasn't faced the kind of competition that would test whether he can deal with someone who genuinely believes they can beat him. Maybe Demsey McKean is the one exception, but that's still his one good win. Jermaine Franklin, who wasn't particularly good even in his career-best performance against AJ, which, mind you, was the worst version of AJ until recently, came in 24 pounds heavier against Itauma. Does that behavior show confidence that he can upset an undefeated talent? No. Most of Itauma's opponents have basically checked out before the fight or once they felt his speed and power.
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    It's gonna happen

    Even Hrgovic said it might happen
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Hrgovic has won the mental warfare battle so far and quite conclusively at that even though English is his 2nd language. He's a funny guy and the definition of an alpha male but one of the reasons why he's been winning it is because what he's saying is true and everytime he drops one of his truth bombs not only can't Moses refute them but no one can because they're true and even those who don't want to believe it initially have to concede it's true after giving it a few seconds thought. Hrgovic might be playing mind games but he's not trying to be disrespectful

    That being said, it's not Moses' fault he was afforded a big head start for coming from Britain (originally from Slovakia) and Hrgovic had to work much harder and make huge sacrifices to get himself in the position he's in and even though the hype has been crazy compared to what he's achieved so far he is very talented and thee hype is warranted to a certain extent just not that he's the next great HW despite still having important questions to answer

    I still think he's all wrong for Hrgovic though and if you have to narrow it down to one deciding factor it's the speed disparity.

    Even though this sounds too obvious, if Hrgovic can land with any consistency and crack him with full power shots and hurt him he could win because we have no idea how good Moses' chin is yet or how he responds to adversity, especially if Hrgovic can take his shots and deal with his speed, but if not he's going to get hit hard, quickly and often and Moses is going to exploit the holes in his defence and tendencies and land big shots and time him with counters

    Hrgovic's skills have regressed as a pro but Dwyer posted a video the other day re. Hrgovic's fight against Mansour and the tactics he employed in that fight where he used his legs and range to keep it long. Sure Mansour was old nut I think it would be advisable for Hrgovic to employ those tactics in this fight too instead of being lumbering and flat-footed, if he's still capable of doing so these days which I'm not sure he is

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