Do Interim Titles count?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    No

    When the interim titles first spawned it was to have a place holder for a champion who was injured or had a health issue. I dont think interim champions are necessary but in the original spirit I think they had more weight

    Now they are basically just an over glorified number 1 contender for sanctioning fees

    Its still a worthy accomplishment but it's not a world title. Its basically the WBC International Title
     
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  2. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing

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    Bud won the WBA belt at 154. Boxrec doesn't recognize them, and that's why you can't see the title on the site.
     
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  3. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope. We don't need to dilute World Champions further than they already have been.
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Bud IS a 5 division champion. There was a major title and an interim title on the line when Bud beat Madrimov.
     
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  6. Sandman_

    Sandman_ The Phoenix flew & the Big Fish knew Full Member

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    Are 'interim' world titles world titles? Yes, they clearly are. They are another form of alphabet world title. You get given the exact same belt as a fully-fledged world champ. The sanctioning body can award a world title, a super world title or an interim world title. The WBA used to award all three. The other sanctioning bodies award at least two. They're all alphabet world titles of one form or another. What people are essentially saying on this thread is that not all alphabet world titles are created equal. But they're all still alphabet world titles.
     
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  7. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It shouldn't even count when a fighter is handed it.. a belt becomes vacant make the top 2 fight for it
     
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  8. GoodBot

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    Robert Guerrero :lol: He himself claims to be a 4 division champion. But at 135 and 147 he only won interim titles, never being elevated to full champion.
     
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  9. dogcatcher

    dogcatcher Active Member Full Member

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    What other major title was on the line? Boxrec and Wikipedia only says WBA and WBO interim belts.
     
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  10. Ike

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    The major title Rumsfeld is referring to is the WBA super welterweight world title, which was at stake along with the interim WBO title.
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    This. Exactly this. :thumbsup:
     
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  12. GoodBot

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    The Wikipedia wording is poor/wrong, that´s why you are confused here
    Madrimov was the WBA champion going into the fight, he won the vacant WBA title in his previous fight, and he was the only WBA champion at the time.
     
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  13. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good old Lester Ellis was a self proclaimed 6 time World Champion. IBF Junior Lightweight, back in the very early years of that orgaisation . He lost it in his second defence then he went on the WBF and IBO roadshow.
     
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  14. dogcatcher

    dogcatcher Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the clarification. This is why it's so disappointing that Boxrec decided to screw fighters and fans over by not recognizing the WBA. It used to be such a great source. Now I'm forced to refer to Wikepedia which always sucks.
     
    dogcatcher, Aug 19, 2026 at 8:49 PM
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