Champ's That Benefited From The Timing Of His Opponents Careers?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Which champions had the biggest advantage because his potentially hardest Opponents were past their best, not yet established , or simply peaked at different times?
    Not talking about accusations of avoiding opponents .
    Sometimes it s simply luck of the draw .
     
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  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano.
     
  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd. Although it was not an accident. It was by design.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes, I can see RM falling into that category.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    True, that's just how it falls sometimes in boxing.
     
  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano is the first to come to mind. Felt like he got to Louis, Charles, Walcott and Moore at the right time.

    Terry Norris also caught Sugar Ray Leonard, Donald Curry and Meldrick Taylor at a time when they were not at their best.

    And then most recently Bam Rodriguez when he fought Carlos Cuadras, Srisaket Sor Rungvisa, and Juan Francisco Estrada.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jack Johnson... Langford was a superwelter, McVea green as a spring shoot, Jeffries stale and old.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    All the above answers are good. I will ad Jim Jeffries. His biggest wins are arguably Bob Fitzsimmons, Jim Corbett and Peter Jackson. All were long past their best when he fought them, and at least two of those were completely shot and inactive
     
  9. Turnip mk3

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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh man, when I saw the subject matter the first fighter to pop in my head was Stracey. It's kinda eerie that his greatest wins were over Jose Napoles, Hedgemon Lewis, Ernie Lopez, Roger Menetrey and Jack Tillman. And in every instance it was their last fight of the career.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Mayweather.
     
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  12. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar De La Hoya
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    Many used to argue Lennox if I recall correctly
    Fury, AJ and Wilder and subsequently, Usyk
    Rocco
    Norris
    Calzaghe
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruben Olivares v Jesus Pimental - 2 all-time bangers meeting for the world title. Sounds great on paper but Pimental was 31 with over 80 fights to his name and some very worn tires. Signed title fights against Jofre and Harada went belly up for 'Little Poison' in his prime. He gave it a go but Ruben was just too much for him

    Bob Montgomery v Wesley Mouzon II - this fight needed to be made, especially after Mouzon stopped the reigning lightweight champ in a non-title in 2 rounds. They signed for an immediate rematch and this time, a well conditioned Montgomery took apart Mouzon piece by piece. You might think, 'Well, so what. If he stopped the champ, what was he waiting for?" Well, Mouzon was only 19 at the time. He really could have used some seasoning before jumping the gun on a title shot. But I guess what is one to do when the offer comes in. Mouzon's career ended there with a detached retina. But he did go on to become a world class trainer.

    Salvador Sanchez v Azumah Nelson - Nelson gave the champ fits before succumbing in the 15th round of a very tight fight. He had only 13 fights behind him and no one would have known he would have become an all-time great. But damn, does that name look good on your record.
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very nice examples
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Cotto.

    And the butthurt is showing re: Floyd's supposed 16 year prime and 24 pound natural weight range.
     
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