Send in your light heavyweight to give prime Ali a tough night at the office

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones, Michael Spinks and Ezzard Charles could all potentially make Ali have to work for a win. In the end I believe he beats them all though.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    A few on here might argue about Moorer having more skills than Foster.
     
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  3. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    Yeah I really like the Loughran calls here. I hardly see him winning, simply because Ali is bigger, faster and won't feel anything Loughran throws at him. But he has the ability to cause some issues through his incredible spoiling ability.

    if there's any Light Heavy that could potentially out-jab Ali, it's Loughran. Not in the way you'd expect him to, though. His lead hand was a far cry from the modern approach. He wasn't an in and out jabber, he was an in and stay in jabber.

    Here's a great analysis on some of the moves Loughran pulled that goes into detail about it:
    https://www.fightprimer.com/advanced-striking-20-tommy-loughran-jabby-little-man?rq=tommy loughran

    Guy couldn't punch, but he sure as **** knew how to fight.
     
  4. Steve Fero

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  5. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think a prime Qawi, could give a post Manilla Ali quite a bit of trouble.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    They both would be some of the most skilled and biggest of Ali's title defenses. Moorer would definitely be more powerful and more skilled than Karl Mildenberger.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    For once we concur
     
  8. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Foster relied heavily and his long jab vs shorter armed light heavies.
     
  9. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    He never had to. I probably could have worded that differently.
     
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  10. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Hello, InMemoryofJakeLamotta.

    I would like to offer Sam Langford at 175 pounds.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    Cheers. Where I am heading is that if Ali really needed to cut off the ring I dare say it wouldn't be much of a challenge. His feet were blindingly fast and combine that with his handspeed and I'd hate to be the smaller guy he felt he needed to hammer.

    Perhaps a runner could cruise the distance if he gave up the idea of actually trying to win the fight.
     
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  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    He certainly had the capability to do it but would he? I would wager that the subject of cutting off the ring- of Ali cutting off the ring against an opponent- was never once brought up in his entire career. Beyond that, I don't think that particular skill was something he ever considered learning. I don't mean that as a dig at Ali, but he had his way of fighting and it didn't involve him walking guys down.
    Would he be able to do it? Over my years here I have often said that I do not consider Ali to be the most skilled, complete fighter many say he is, but his will to win is way up there and that has to be respected. it is also why I didn't say either of those guys would beat Ali, but that he would not look good in winning.
     
  13. ThatOne

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    He spent most of his time on the front foot against Joe Bugner in Kuala Lumpur
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    I'm guessing that if they didn't take chances and try to win he'd be in cruise mode. He loved being in the ring spotlight and would likely be content to outpoint them. If they were having success and making it competitive (which i highly doubt as he had the speed and timing to catch them if they were too offensive) he'd certainly up the ante. With his foot speed and natural instincts i think he'd have little trouble if he had to go that way. But again, if they fought to spoil and survive it'd be a drawn out exhibition match.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doug Jones.
    Yes, he was a lightheavyweight even in his era.
    Even fought at a catchweight below the 175 limit.
    Much more petite and scrawny than Michael Moorer ever was.
    Probably better suited for 175 than Archie Wright was during his reign there.
    Did not lose against Ali according to what I saw.
     
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