Joe Calzaghe vs Mike McCallum Better Resume

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    In a prime for prime fight, Mike would have had a very good chance of beating Bernard.

    It's very obvious that you aren't in any way knowledgeable of Mike's career.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wrong again?

    When have I been wrong before?


    No, Joe absolutely did not have at least 15 of his 21 title defences against world level opposition.

    Joe didn't fight 15 world level fighters from his entire 15 year career.


    The last time I checked, over half of his 21 defences were against non world level opposition.

    I can check again.
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do I really need to come out of retirement and teach some you a thing or two about how Calzaghe clearly has the greater resume?

    I shouldn't have to, but I can feel and old school lesson coming on
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You could convince people that black is white.

    That night is day.


    You could be a real version of Saul Goodman.


    But even you couldn't convince anyone that Joe had a better resume.
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm warning you Loudon!
    If I have to come out of retirement for this. The pwnage you will suffer would be legendary!
    You have been warned :headbash
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    I miss those old days.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is definitely your finest effort to date.

    You’ve literally got only 1 of those things correct, but I’ll give you a B.

    Definitely a B for the added rant.


    Just a bit of advice for you though. I’d look at editing a few words, as you’ll otherwise end up with a ban.

    I honestly wouldn’t want to see that.

    You bring me too much entertainment.


    Ultimately, my answer to you will always be the same:

    Come and REFUTE any of my points.

    I’ll wait.
     
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  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Are you trying to get me banned, Loudon? Have I hurt your feelings?

    Someone like you is what the ignore list is made for. So I'll just ignore your posts - all you ever do is disparage Joe Calzaghe, you offer nothing constructive to this website. I've never seen you in RBR threads, threads about current boxers, threads in the lounge, etc.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Am I trying to get you banned??

    I have literally told you to edit some of the things that you’ve said, so that you DON’T get banned.

    Ha!
     
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  10. Boxing GOAT

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    Funny to see the same posters who dump on Calzaghe fighting past prime Roy and Bernard give McCallum credit for wins over a near novice Collins who took the fight on short notice, Curry who was natural WW, Kalambay--a good but not great fighter, McCrory who was good but not great, Julian Jackson--a good puncher but not a great fighter. McCallum was a very good fighter who twice fought competitively with a weight drained Toney but came up short. These were Toney's last fights at MW. That's his legacy aside from being a great body puncher.
     
  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's the Bailey I used to hate...but grew to appreciate! Hope all is well
     
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  12. PopPellegrino

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    If Jackson, Kalambay, McCrory, and Curry were just good, what words would you use to describe Lacy, Jones, Brewer, Gimenez, Eubank, Sheika, Sobot, Mkrtchyan, Thornberry, Manfredo, Woodhall, Veit, Pudwill, and Reid at the time Calzaghe fought them?

    Kessler, Bika, and Hopkins (43 years old) are Calzaghe's best wins. In the span of two years, McCallum beat Graham, Collins (who was slighty green), Watson, and Kalambay. Calzaghe is an ATG super-middle, but he is far from having an ATG resume.
     
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  13. brb

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    There's probably 5 defenses who weren't "World Level", but they only had 1 or 2 losses each. You are really hating on this guy.

    Eubank: 45-2-2 / WBO Champ
    Sobot: 14-1 / Possibly not World Level (1st defense)
    Ferreyra: Fought 4 times for SMW Title / #1 Contender / Never stopped before Calzaghe in 59 pro fights (16 years)
    Reid: 26-1-1 / Former WBC Champ w/ 3 defenses
    Thornberry: 22-2 / Fought 2 times for SMW Title
    Starie: 22-1 / Fought 2 times for SMW Title
    Sheika: 20-1 / Fought 4 times for SMW Title
    Woodhall: 26-2 / Former WBC Champ w/ 2 defenses
    Veit: 30-0 & 45-1 / Beat former IBF Champ (Brewer)
    McIntyre: 29-2 / Never knocked down before Calz
    Brewer: 37-8 / Former IBF Champ w/ 3 defenses
    Jimenez: 21-1 / Possibly not World Level
    Pudwill: 39-4 / Replacement for Thomas Tate
    Mitchell: 25-2-1 / Lineal & 2x WBA Champ
    Mkrtchyan: 18-1 / Possibly not World Level
    Salem: 23-2 / Possibly not World Level
    Ashira: 24-1 / Possibly not World Level
    Lacy: 21-0 / IBF Champ w/ 4 defenses
    Bika: 20-1-2 / Draw w/ WBC Champ & On "The Contender"
    Manfredo Jr. 26-3 / On "The Contender"
    Kessler: 39-0 / WBA & WBC Champ w/ 4 defenses.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a waste of a post.

    You haven’t got a clue.
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. I am not HATING on him.

    Criticising him with verifiable facts, is not hating.


    2. It doesn’t matter how many times someone has fought at world level or for a title etc.

    You now have the advantage of being able to look back over time. And it’s very easily provable who was and who wasn’t world level.


    I will post who wasn’t world level later.

    I do appreciate your effort though.
     
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