Where would Ali and Frazier all time heavyweight rankings be if Fraizer won the thrilla in Manila

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  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Would Ali fall behind Holmes,Lewis & Frazier in the all-time heavyweight rankings?
     
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  2. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Good question.Ali would definitely fall below Joe Louis but I think he would still be rated
    above Lewis,Holmes and possibly Frazier.
    If Joe had won the Thrilla he would probably be a concensus top 5 all-time heavyweight champion.
    Then he would be wise to retire immediately and not even think about rematching with Big George.
     
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  3. Cornucopia

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    If you mean that the fight progressed exactly as it did, but Futch did not stop Frazier from coming out but Ali quit, it would mae some difference.
    A bit less if his corner stopped him.
    If somehow they both clashed in the 15th & Frazier won convincingly-which would need to be a stoppage-Frazier rates higher, but not above Ali.
     
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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, definitely not. Ali and Louis would likely be 50/50 split as the divisions all time #1 and #2, though.
     
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