What Caused Riddick Bowe's Decline _Physical Wear And Tear Or Lack Of Discipline?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Bowe was still relatively young when his career started to fall apart .Was it the punishment from the Holyfield trilogy and other fights or did Bowe's preparation and life style choices prevent him from fulfilling his potential?

    Just how good could Bowe have gone on to be with better discipline?
     
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  2. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Poor diet and training habits and getting hit too much.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    It was both. Lack of discipline and a poor defense which led to taking too many shots too early.
     
  4. Boxing GOAT

    Boxing GOAT Active Member Full Member

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    Too much good living, but a lot of boxing insiders and fans thought his decline accelerated after the Golota fights.
     
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  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Never had the greatest defense, especially at long range.

    Didn’t take care of himself outside the ring, yo-yoing in weight. Took a lot of punishment.

    As with the case in basically all sports, you never know how someone is going to recover from the beatings/wear-and-tear. Some people are just able to recover better, others aren’t.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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  7. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lack of defence, you can't take that many punches from a 250 lbs man like Golota
     
  8. Cornucopia

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    Golota was 235 & then 239 vs. Bowe.
    But the weight is secondary to being naturally powerful & well trained-if it was an average man of that size, a weight lifter or untrained, Bowe could take mucho hits!
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    All of the above.

    If you are going to fight the kind of heavyweights they had in the 90s, you had better try to hit without getting hit.

    You also need to keep on top of your training, because there are men in this era that will.
     
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  10. steve21

    steve21 Well-Known Member

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    All of the above - poor discipline, etc - but I think there are also athletes who just aren’t built to withstand the trauma of combat sports. It’s difficult for even the best of the best, but for every Holmes or Foreman who manage to keep it together despite long careers, there’s a Bowe showing significant impairment with a fraction of the longevity and ring wear and tear. It’s an intangible.

    Hearns and Hagler (RIP) had roughly the same number of fights, but Marvin was sound and articulate to the end; listening to Tommy nowadays is sad.
     
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  11. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe is one of the big question marks for me. At his best 100/100 unicorn he is a handful for any heavweight in history. Now, bear with me on this...I think his lack of discipline helped create the fighter he was. A discipined Bowe who followed a trainers A,B and C would never have fought the way that made him great. Had Bowe had a trainer who could have forced discipline into his diet and conditioning but find a way to let his unorthodox style, risk taking and massive heart combine with a tighter defence and better ring genralship I think he could have been...the greatest?

    Riddick Bowe...some kind of monster. Jeez that kid burned bright but oh so briefly...
     
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  12. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe was already messed up by Golota I. I don't see how anybody could say anything different. He was a sitting duck.. just look at it.
     
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  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    It was neither. Rumor has it that he would do it non-missionary on Sunday mornings, often in lieu of going to church at all. Eventually, as you may tell the rambler, the gambler and the back biter, sooner or later, God will cut you down. With Bowe, it was sooner.
     
  14. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I believe he was brain-damaged coming out of the amateurs, and Rock Newman covered it up.

    1) The weird stoppage in the Olympics itself that no one on Bowe's team complained about. Maybe were happy to get him out of there with silver to make some money.
    2) The Lewis duck (yes, yes it was).
    3) Steered from other punchers, too. In the era he fought in, no fights against Tyson, Mercer, Morison, McCall, etc.
    4) Newman reacted horribly when Bowe hit Tillery after the bell and weird brawl broke out in which Tillery was kicking. Risked his own well-being to save Bowe.
    5) Didn't handle even mid-level punchers like Holy and Golota well. Even has some nervous moments against diminutive Herbie Hide.
    6) Very "rapid" and "sudden" decline we are talking about would just make more sense if not really rapid and sudden.

    Just a pet theory of mine.