Criticism of Itauma Is Fascinating

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ioakeim Tzortzakis, Jul 2, 2026.


  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I agree it should be a pretty simple fix.

    Its kinda interesting how a fighter with almost all the physical advantages can lose a fight by stoppage, in a fight he would win almost 10 out of 10 times if he just did such minor corrections every round.

    I do wonder though, it could be possible we (or I) are actually underestimating his conditioning issues though. He was completely spent and it was only the 9th round. He hadnt even entered the championship rounds yet and was already completely done.

    Im hoping thats not a sign that his stamina issue, even with adjustments, isnt a bridge too far.
     
  2. Stuntmanmike

    Stuntmanmike New Member Full Member

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    Same thing happened to David Haye early in his career it didnt stop him being a dangerous force in the future

    Ituama will always have these questions over his head his whole career even if the rest of his career is flawless just like Haye did
     
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  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Itauma has always had stamina issues imo. That's why he needs to improve his iq so he can pick his spots, as imo he is so explosive that he will always gas if he keeps going 100% constantly. Even if he works hard it will always be there at some level. It's a trade off for his gift of insane speed and coordination for a big man.

    Hopefully he comes back better and determined. Excited for his future bouts.
     
  4. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    That's what I want to see too. Coz I recall an interview of his a while back where it's pretty clear he has that "1 loss might be everything" mentality of the post Floyd era. Said he doesn't want to be one of those fighters you point at and say "this guy lost a fight" or something among those lines.

    Now I can understand that mentality and attitude, even if I don't approve of it. More so at the high level. Coz in my mind, if you're already proven and have already cemented yourself as a great fighter with a great resume, a loss doesn't really hurt you so bad.

    But with Itauma it's different. The best wins of his resume consists of those guys in like, the top 20-30 or so. He just fought his first ranked fighter and got knocked out. Horrible for a fighter with that mentality.

    If he manages to come back from it with a completely changed perspective, then that'd be super manly of him.
     
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  5. Stuntmanmike

    Stuntmanmike New Member Full Member

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    We all know Ituama has to slow down with the power shots when hes in against top opposition that can take a punch

    But also as time goes on and opponants see more footage of him he needs to mix up his attacks more often

    He does the same four punches or combinations

    If there was more footage of him then fighters can make a gsme plan for him

    Its left hand to the body (which nobody seems to be able to defend) to set up the right hook upstairs combinations which Filip did adapt too somewhat during the fight

    The step back counter right hook is a great shot too but people will catch on to this the more fights hes in

    He also had a great short left hook counter and he throws at the end of the body straight right hook combo

    Anyways he needs to work more on different combinations and side footwork openings when he gets the opposition onto the ropes as its mostly straight lines which he gets away with because of his speed so far

    The Mike Tyson comparisons really are laughable though

    Tyson was so much more dynamic and more creative,Id say David Haye had a better punch variation
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Fair enough. The point is, they could have got him a title and had him in much better position. But they swerved all the matches that could have helped him.
     
  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Well, that aged pretty well amongst the dogmatic certainty of his future dominance.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It's all down to mental resolve now. Itauma has shown he has the ability. He's a far better fighter than Filip but his few deficiencies were the difference. I agree it was a bad matchup for him.

    He could still be king of the division, but he's got some work to do. It's been said already, he needs to work on his pacing and he needs to improve his aerobic capacity. He's got speed, power, skill, heart, a good chin.

    More important right this minute is whether he is mentally tough enough to rebound. Some never rebound fully, Donald Curry and George Foreman are two examples despite foreman coming back a thousand years later and winning the lineal title. Others come back with a vengeance. Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Leonard would be two good examples. Both copped tough losses.

    Which side of the line will Moses fall on?
     
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  9. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    :deal::deal::deal::deal:

    And the usual suspects actually were talking about itauma beating Usyk. Lol :D And I mean the Usyk that just knocked dubois out!
     
  10. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely they knew he didn't have 12 round fitness so seems like a bad move to match him against someone that can take a punch
     
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  11. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He can have all the qualities in the world but without a gas tank or a chin he may struggle
     
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  12. Stuntmanmike

    Stuntmanmike New Member Full Member

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    Theres so many aspects to a fight though,i doubt even the almighty Usyk can take the sort of unseen punishment Filip took last night.
    Usyk would beat moses no matter what though as Moses has a pretty limited punch selection for a fighter as smart as Usyk.

    If Moses fought like he did last night against Dubois he would have stopped him in 3 rounds imo
     
  13. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has the handspeed and punching power to produce such knockouts, especially against punching bags, but brother, there is nothing impressive about stopping post-PED Whyte looking like off-venom Bane from Batman and Robin, or getting rid of stiff, hittable or outright obese fighters like Wach.

    McKean and Franklin were very promising, but still tailor made for Moses.
     
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  14. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Have rarely, if ever, heard anyone as overhyped as Itauma was. The comparisons to past greats when he had done so little were just plain embarrassing.

    Myth busted.
     
  15. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis "The David Haye of Loma's Gay" -Edgar Allan Poe Full Member

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    Goes both ways though. There are people in this thread alone who clearly wanted him to fail just because he was overhyped and now feel vindicated because God forbid we have any optimism in life. That's a way more pathetic attitude to have. He was 5 years old when Hrgovic was already a youth amateur world champion ffs, and for several rounds he made Hrgovic look like he hadn't been past sparring. You'd have to be a pretty miserable person to not want a talent like him around, given his age and rate of progress.

    His aura is gone, but let's see how Itauma takes this before we decide that his book is closed. He has plenty of years ahead of him if he can bounce back. Wlad was older, had a bigger amateur background and twice the amount of pro fights and rounds Itauma had when he got knocked out by an unranked fighter like Purrity, and he came back to rule for years. I do worry that Itauma's attitude might not let him recover from this though. He was big on this "I don't ever want to lose" and "my chin won't get tested stuff". Only thing to do is wait and see.
     
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