Moses Itauma vs. Filip Hrgović & Sam Noakes vs. Denys Berinchyk + Nelson Hysa vs. Thomas Narmo RBR.

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  1. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Chin? I don't know about that.

    It just screams a bit of Tommy Morrison here. Itauma basically met his Ray Mercer.
     
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  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a great angle, it shows that Filip WAS catching Moses with shots - it wasn't ALL exhaustion - the reaction to the big body shot says it all.

    Folks should watch the last minute of round 8 again, Hrgo risjed a fair bit letting Moses empty his tank trying to KO him, but he then caught the kid with 3 really meaty and nasty body shots on the inside and a check hook, those REALLY exacerbated the tank-emptying IMO.

    Folks need to give Hrgo more credit for good shot selection at the right times - his work with Sanchez definitely showed more offensive nuance last night IMO
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

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    He needs serious rounds against someone durable. I don't think Itauma will achieve much from knocking old glassed up chins out early such as Whyte.

    Hughie Fury or Vianello would be good come back fights IMO.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Moses Itauma was carrying at least 10 pounds of excess body fat. Probably even 15. When you come into the ring at over 240 pounds you will not be able to go 12 hard rounds. He's either got to lose the fat or pace. It's one or the other.
     
  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moses & his trainers also should realise that just because he CAN knock folks out early, doesn't mean he SHOULD.

    His team should look to match him with someone fairly durable - but unlikely to win on points and have Itauma fight a disciplined jab-led LOOSE points-winning approach. Get 9, 10, 12 rounds under the belt. FEEL what affect it has on cardio - see what difference not loading up all the time makes etc etc.

    It might not be great for the audience, but it's the old adage - he needs to get rounds in, and learn how to win on points using his skiils first.

    Once he can do that then they can work on reintstating the KO's - where it makes sense to do so based on opportunity etc etc
     
  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    You have to admit Hrgovic proved you wrong. At the same time, I remember you described him as a statue and I think that is quite literally the perfect word to describe Hrgovic.
     
  7. Ice8Cold

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    How did Jaron Ennis get involved in this conversation? :D
     
  8. Parker90

    Parker90 Active Member Full Member

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    kabayal ends him if hrgovic takes that fight.. dubuis is 50/50 cause dubois is a glass cannon lol.
     
  9. Ice8Cold

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    Honestly, Anderson doesn't even want to be boxing and hes literally said this.

    Itauma needs to fight someone that isn't as skilled and tough as Hrgovic but still has a decent enough chin to give him rounds. Eg - Vianello, Hughie Fury.
     
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    I wouldn't say he proved me wrong. I think he proved that he's exactly who I said he was. I've always said Hrgovic is slow, easy to hit, easy to cut, doesn't move his head, only has a basic 1-2 for offense, and doesn't hit all that hard because he throws arm punches instead of using his whole kinetic chain. And we saw that against Moses. He had a simple game plan and let a young dumb kid fall right into his blatantly obvious trap.

    I said Moses' defense was suspect. And it was. Slow as molasses Hergy was hitting him fairly easily. I said Moses never showed us he knew how to clinch, fight inside, and how to respond when an opponent didn't just immediately retreat to the ropes and would throw back at him. And he failed in all those areas. I said Moses had never proved he could go deep into a fight and that against a live opponent that would be a real problem. That he'd never proved he could manage a fight and pace himself. Sure enough, he's already tired by round 4-5 and flat out goes to pieces before he even hit the championship rounds.

    This fight was all about Moses not living up to what people claimed he was, not Hrgovic being something more than what we thought. Congrats to Hergy, though. Taking all of Frank's money to derail his wonder child and become HW champ. Dude deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame just for the look he put on Frank's face at the end of the fight, lol.
     
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  11. Ice8Cold

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    An honour. :beer-toast1:

    Itauma was just so untested and unproven in many aspects in boxing, and people were banging on that he didn't need to be tested like that. Fools.
     
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  12. Ice8Cold

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    Kabayel is a really bad match-up for Hrgovic as Kabayel will get inside soon enough and eat his body up.

    Hrgovic V Dubois - Hrgovic has a very good chance if Dubois doesn't cut him early.
     
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  13. Parker90

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    yep i even would favor frank sanchez to out point him if he plays it safe to be honest lol
     
  14. JacK Rauber

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    Kabayel vs Itauma would be a great fight.
     
  15. FrankinDallas

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    Tim Bradley called him Frankenstein.

    This fight reminded me of Ali-Foreman. People were afraid that Foreman was actually going to kill Ali. Preflght psychology wore on Foreman mentally then the rope a dope drained his gas tank. Yet years later Foreman became champ again. There is always redemption available if you can earn it.

    People here pounding on Itauma because of the "he's the next Mike Tyson" hype. Bruce Springsteen was supposed to be the next Bob Dylan but he was merely the next Bruce Springsteen. So blame the hype machine not the boxer.