Were the Tyson comparisons justified?

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Were the Tyson comparisons justified

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  1. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson had 27 fights before he fought for a title, even though he was young and very busy they built him the right way. If Itauma had 27 fights before he fought Hrgovic I’m sure the outcome would have been different.
     
  2. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Active Member Full Member

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    Not at all. The British media are just sychopantic arse lickers desperate for another golden goose.
     
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  3. Flip The Table

    Flip The Table New Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson got exposed early on by being knocked out by Buster Douglas. Who was a far, far bigger underdog than Hrgovic.

    Itauma looked very impressive and very talented up until this point just like Tyson did when he was young. So there was nothing wrong with comparing the two. It's just the Tyson fanboys get all sensitive when you compare anyone to him!

    If Itauma had faced a lesser fighter for the title like Trevor Berbick with 4 losses and 1 draw, he'd be the world champion now. Hrgovic being so granite chinned, tough, seasoned , experienced and confident was the wrong move for a super talented but inexperienced and untested young fighter.

    Highly likely Itauma won't have as many as 7 losses to his name at the end of his career like Mike Tyson has.
     
  4. Flip The Table

    Flip The Table New Member banned Full Member

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    The funny thing is if Itauma had faced Frank Sanchez for the vacant title, or someone like a Martin Bakole, Jared Anderson. He'd have destroyed them early and all the threads now would be how he's better than Tyson!

    He's clearly a massive talent. He just got rushed far too soon, and they chose the ****ing wrong guy to face!

    As always Mike Tyson is being overrated like he was an untouchable, unbeatable mythical God. When clearly that actually wasn't the case, see the Buster Douglas fight, and see some other early fights were he went the distance and didn't look that impressive.
     
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  5. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, I've seen a few people saying Tyson lost to Douglas who is a lesser fighter than Hrgovic!? the funny thing is Hrgovic didn't do much except absorb Itaumas punches, throw back and Itauma capitulated. The Douglas that fought Tyson would have given better fighters than Itauma a whole heap of problems and non casuals know he was a very capable fighter that didn't always apply himself, that said Tyson should have beaten him and would have had he prepared properly. Back to Itauma, he went on record saying he doesn't spar 12 rounds and it showed last night, he has fast hands but I'm not convinced by his defence because Hrgovic as tough as he is, is quite clumsy and slow yet didn't find itauma that difficult to hit when he decided to throw. I'm not sure what the game plan is to bring him back because many fighters will have watched that and fancy their chances, if they can weather the storm. He is a good young fighter but he doesn't tick all the boxes and I'm convinced he'll lose again and could potentially end up the same as Anthony yard. He's been way too inactive and over hyped but I am interested in seeing what he's made of and how his comeback will unfold.
    The good news is, he's in good health judging by the video he released, although it did seem like he was being held hostage and reading from a teleprompter
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's alot of misconceptions about Douglas.

    Between 1986-1990 before the Holyfield fight of course.

    Douglas had only lost 1 fight in 4 years and had victories over the likes of Oliver McCall, Trevor Berbick, Greg Page.

    That's 3 wins against fighters who held world titles.

    Not to mention Douglas had a stand out performance against Mike Williams who played Union Cane in Rocky 5.

    A fight where Douglas knocked his opponent down 3 times with a jab which is unheard of.

    So coming into the Tyson fight Douglas was in the form of his life and then he peaked in a great performance vs Tyson.

    People also overlook the massive advantages Douglas had in height and reach.

    Tyson's reach is only 71 inches where as Douglas has an 83 inch reach.

    Tyson is 5'10 where as Douglas is close to 6'4.

    So when you have an opponent who's in the form on their life who has a near 6 inch height advantage and a staggering 12 inch reach advantage.

    That's going to be a problem.
     
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  7. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    those comparisons came naturally; Itauma proved he is exceptionally talented—much like Tyson—but at a certain stage, serious flaws emerged, such as poor stamina, and a lack of experience also played a major role. At a similar stage in his career, Wladimir Klitschko lost in a comparable fashion to Ross Purritty, who was worse than Hrgovic and far worse than Buster Douglas.
    Itauma remains a hot prospect, provided this fight serves as a learning experience rather than a demoralizing setback.
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    There were reasons to compare him. And he showed them again in this fight. I think people get too caught up in the comparisons. People aren't saying he was JUST LIKE him. Just that there was a resemblance in the talent.

    I see nothing wrong with it and Mike is my favorite fighter ever.
     
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  9. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At the time they were.

    Itauma had looked spectacular against lower level opposition and destroying some gatekeepers who had gone rounds with world level fighters.

    Itauma was also very young while doing it.

    These were some similarities at the time, so people were drawing a parallel based on that, but most people did make the distinction to not literally say ‘he’s as good as Tyson’ until he further proved himself.
     
  10. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    Moses Itouma is closer to Edgar Berlanga than Mike Tyson
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Completely different careers where fighters seem to be managed differently but I think it would be fair to say that as 21 year olds, both looked very impressive
     
  12. Shootlow

    Shootlow Active Member Full Member

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    No, Itauma landed a couple of shots on Hrgovic that you'd fancy Tyson would have put people away with including iron chinned Hrgovic. I dont think Moses bangs as hard as Tyson did. Tyson was faster had better movement and had a good engine. There were doubts about Moses's engine even before Saturday night. Moses is only a pup and he's mentioned not being in love with the sport whereas Tyson relished it, if you'd cut Tyson open he would have bled boxing. Tyson couldn't wait to get in the ring and not just knock people out but hurt them. There was a savagery about Tyson that Moses doesnt seem to have.
     
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  13. Knight Falls

    Knight Falls New Member Full Member

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    Tyson? More like Tiredson.
     
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Hrgovic absolutely is not better than Douglas

    Hrgovic is more durable than Douglas and that is about it

    Douglas has a better jab than Hrgovic, a better right uppercut, far better combinations, much faster hands and much faster feet

    Hrgovic could never ever threw the speedy powerful 5-6 punch combos that Douglas was throwing with regularity.
     
  15. 723

    723 Delusional Old-Head + New Boxing Fan (on a hiatus) Full Member

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    Mike Tyson was a prodigy unlike anything the division had seen prior or since. Unfair to diminish Itauma for not reaching a standard that no other heavyweight ever has. He’s still clearly a man with a lot of talent and that shouldn’t be overlooked because he took a fight he was too inexperienced for.