Should Itauma Change Trainers

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Should Itauma Change Trainers

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  1. Yes

    89.6%
  2. No, He should stay with Ben Davison

    10.4%
  1. Cyrion

    Cyrion Active Member Full Member

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    Minnie, my boy. These fighters gotta pass a drug test before they fight. If they spend any amount of time with the ol' Gypsy dosser they're gonna be addicted to the Columbian marching powder just like Fury's buddy Joesniff Parker.
     
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  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Adam Booth would be a good fit. Haye and Groves we,re always pretty good at making opponents hesitant to close the distance/gap on them which helped keep opponents off them and kept them more efficient.

    Outside of the pacing i reckon that will be Moses biggest hurdle to overcome He kept Hrgovic off him by throwing the kitchen sink at him.

    Going forward tho he has to be more efficient. But if you cant stop opponents from coming forward without throwing the kitchen sink at them he will be in that exact same position again.

    What i remember was Groves and Haye having quite a wide stance at times....if you tried to close the gap a big right hand would be waiting on you. After a couple of them its not long before you become hesitant to close that gap. Thats when you can start controlling the distance and pace of the fight.

    You need power....which I reckon Moses does actually have. But he was too predictable with his power on Saturday night. Mix it up. He was kind of diluting his power by throwing threes and fours with a high volume continuously.

    Booth or Ingle. Who gives his fighters decent angles. That again makes you more hesitant to close the gap.
     
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  3. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Furys a natural imo. Hes worked hard at it granted. But i m not even sure hes even been taught half the stuff he does. Or hes thought it out for himelf either. Just naturally gifted.

    That doesnt usually go well when coaching.
     
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  4. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    He needs to find a trainer that will ensure he knows what 12 rounds feels like, you can't go into a championship fight having without preparing for a fight that might go 12, that's being stupid
     
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  5. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No question about it.
     
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  6. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Literally anyone would be better. Reynoso, Salas, Somodio, McGuigan, Sanchez, Shields, BoMac, RJJ, Johnathan Banks, SugarHill, Robert Garcia, McCracken, Booth, the Diaz brothers, Andy Lee, Bozy, literally anyone is better than Davidson. Teddy Atlas would be an improvement and he is quite frankly not a good coach.
     
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  7. Put to the test

    Put to the test Member Full Member

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    Where did the Towler learn how to throw the towel ?

    He's really good at it,,,,
     
  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he's good at it. He lost where it was during the Wardley fight and threw it AFTER the ref waved off Itauma.

    Maybe he needs more lessons.
     
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  9. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    And Moses fully bought into that mentality. "Why spar more rounds than you need to?".

    Lucky, he's only 21. Enough time to change his mindset with the right guidance.
     
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  10. BrokerNYC

    BrokerNYC Hossein Khosrow Ali Vaziri "Sheiky Baby" Full Member

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    Robert Garcia would be my first choice
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    He might not be very coachable. If that's the case then the trainer doesn't matter. Itauma either listens to his coaches and digs deep physically or mentally or he's cooked. He might win a belt or two but there's no chance of him being the future of the division if he doesn't listen.
     
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  12. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Itauma needs a old school coach that won't let him bludge... Ben isn't it.
     
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  13. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    Shane McGuigan trained Moses' brother before he retired because of a heart attack. He might be an option. Don Charles name has come up but don't know if the would work with DDD as they might be facing each other one day, if Moses can come back from this defeat.

    Peter Fury might be an option and relocating out of the South East and get Moses away from some of the back slappers telling him how great he is.

    For all his talent and skill Moses might not be able to adapt and train for different approaches. He's very good at what he does and never had to change anything to beat the competition he faced up to now. Could be a genetic issue and he hits his ceiling early in a fight and needs to work with a coach that can help him learn to pace and manage a fight.
     
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  14. TowelThrower

    TowelThrower Y'all must've forgot Full Member

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    Johnny Nelson done some interviews and said some insightful stuff along the lines of saying Ben will be a good trainer in ten years but he isn't really ready for this at the highest level yet and it's fighters that are getting handed to him that are feeling the effects of that in the short term. He said it may be harsh him getting piled on by everyone right now but the only way he'll learn is like that since he hasn't come up under a seasoned mentor. I've often felt he would be fantastic being an understudy to an older trainer and part of a team as he clearly knows what he's doing up to a certain level.

    From what I've read he has no history working underneath anyone in any reputable boxing gyms in the uk or elsewhere. That's a lot of knowledge and dark arts missing. I've seen people say they rely on analysis and data too much and focus strongly on plan A and lack flexibility when things don't go according to the original plan. I don't know what was going on having Itauma claim 'why would I spar 12 rounds', how can you have one of your fighters believe that kind of nonsense? Most of us could write on a post card what we know about boxing compared to Davison in many ways, he does have some strengths and is not merely some chancer, but he has exhibited some really bizarre and naive things in his career where you just cannot understand the logic.

    I felt it weird when Fury brought ******* Freddie Roach in as the cut man for the Wilder fight because he didn't want to upset Ben. You'd think he would have said yeah I'll learn under Freddie, I'll work cuts for this fight and we'll build a collective game plan. It's an honour having Roach in the corner as a young coach for a fight as important as that. Roach actually didn't agree or like the strategy for that fight and said Ben was basically praying in the corner by the end of the fight when he could see that Wilder was there to be pushed back. Davison has done amazingly considering he doesn't seem to have any background in the sport, but that's also part of the problem that's been developing, he seems to have a limit to his effectiveness as a trainer.
     
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  15. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still don't understand how Ben Davison rose through the training ranks so fast

    What am I missing