Hrgovic is a more talented fighter than Itauma

Serge · Sep 8, 2026 at 9:35 AM

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A 25 Usyk was getting a very controversial decision over Beterbiev in the Olympics. He was incredible in the WSB but he'd never gone past 5 rounds under the lights. The 34 year old Usyk who schooled AJ was a way more proven commodity. Or the 31 version who went undisputed at cruiser.

Wlad and Lewis were better in their 30's than their 20's, throw in Vitali. Wilder and Povetkin too. AJ perhaps not but that was psychological. Fury perhaps not either but that was self-sabotage in large part.

If anyone needs to worry about their prime going into their next few fights, it is Itauma. Hrgovic has more physical miles ofc but mentally, it is Itauma. And he doesn't have the mental constitution of a Hrgovic to deal with it in my opinion.
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I'm talking about a 25 y/o Usyk at HW in the pros against these giants where his speed advantage, reflexes and reaction times would be even greater, like we saw in the WSB. Had he turned pro younger at HW and worked his way up to 12 rounders the Usyk we saw in the WSB would have been all sorts of nightmares for these HW giants he fought, even more so than the much older version was

I know HWs generally mature later

Moses might not be as mentally strong as Hrgovic and it would be foolish on his and his team's part to take a rematch now but Hrgovic's chin is going to crack at some point and we might see evidence of that in his next few fights. I was concerned about his well being after the Big Bang fight

Redbeard7 · Sep 8, 2026 at 9:44 AM

Serge said: ↑

I'm talking about a 25 y/o Usyk at HW in the pros against these giants where his speed advantage, reflexes and reaction times would be even greater, like we saw in the WSB. Had he turned pro younger at HW and worked his way up to 12 rounders the Usyk we saw in the WSB would have been all sorts of nightmares for these HW giants he fought, even more so than the much older version was

I know HWs generally mature later

Moses might not be as mentally strong as Hrgovic and it would be foolish on his and his team's part to take a rematch now but Hrgovic's chin is going to crack at some point and we might see evidence of that in his next few fights. I was concerned about his well being after the Big Bang fight
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If 34 year old Usyk had been fighting WSB 5 rounders he'd have dominated just as much. I think we saw the best of him at HW, even at 38.5 he was still producing elite form. I'd also argue it balances out because he got AJ post-Ruiz, Fury post-binge and post-Wilder etc.

All chins crack eventually but some retire with their chins in tact, even at advanced ages. Foreman, Vitali, McCall, Wach, all very durable at 40+. I suspect Hrgo has that kind of chin.

Redbeard7 · Sep 8, 2026 at 9:56 AM

Wlad was 22 when he gassed and lost while ahead in 11 to journeyman Puritty, and he was better than Puritty

Haye was 23 when he gassed and lost while ahead in 5 to 40+ small CW Thompson, and he was better than Thompson

Morrison was 22 when he gassed and lost while ahead in 5 to Mercer, but he was not better than Mercer

northpaw · Sep 8, 2026 at 10:09 AM

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What were the odds going in? I picked Itauma.
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Pretty sure they were lopsided in Itauma's favor

MaccaveliMacc · Sep 8, 2026 at 10:36 AM

Redbeard7 said: ↑

AJ's comments to Chambers were what they were. I find it interesting that mods on this board want to censor it. Why do you think that might be?

I was an Itauma-sceptic and I made money on that lanky Polish gatekeeper beating fat Andy. You're the goober who trusts the word of Frank Warren, Eddie Hearn, sanctioning bodies and "official government statistics".
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Probably because they are mainstream propagandists afraid of the truth that you are bringing. That's 100% the reason.

I made money on Hrgović beating Itauma, so? That's what we do when odds are too good not to play. I don't trust none of these mentioned as I already stated. But yeah, I do trust official government statistics more than I trust loony conspiracy theories online, who can't even understand the world they are living in as they don't leave their grandmas basements often.

Redbeard7 · Sep 8, 2026 at 11:48 AM

MaccaveliMacc said: ↑

Probably because they are mainstream propagandists afraid of the truth that you are bringing. That's 100% the reason.

I made money on Hrgović beating Itauma, so? That's what we do when odds are too good not to play. I don't trust none of these mentioned as I already stated. But yeah, I do trust official government statistics more than I trust loony conspiracy theories online, who can't even understand the world they are living in as they don't leave their grandmas basements often.
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Eddie Hearn claimed that AJ's DM's were hacked and that was why those derogatory comments were made. Do you believe that?

You trust all of them implicitly, which is why you are frequently quoting them as truth-telling authorities. "Frank said this, Eddie said that". As if Frank/Eddie isn't going to lie/spin to defend his man.

You trust entities which cover up mass violence against children. You trust individuals and organisations in boxing which work with drug kingpins. You are a brainless little sheep.

Kiwi Casual · Sep 8, 2026 at 12:32 PM

Redbeard7 said: ↑

Why wasn't David Price more talented than Tony Thompson? He had better handspeed and power after all.
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This isn't about David Price or Tony Thompson is it?

Wizbit1013 · Sep 8, 2026 at 1:04 PM

Redbeard7 said: ↑

Eddie Hearn claimed that AJ's DM's were hacked and that was why those derogatory comments were made. Do you believe that?

You trust all of them implicitly, which is why you are frequently quoting them as truth-telling authorities. "Frank said this, Eddie said that". As if Frank/Eddie isn't going to lie/spin to defend his man.

You trust entities which cover up mass violence against children. You trust individuals and organisations in boxing which work with drug kingpins. You are a brainless little sheep.
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Cmon NEET, like you've never referenced somebody during one of your essays

BoxingGod12345 · Sep 8, 2026 at 1:09 PM

Redbeard7 said: ↑

Chisora is a biased punch drunk moron.

David Price did well against Tony Thompson, until Thompson destroyed him. Thompson was better than Price, just as Hrgo is better than Itauma.
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David Price lost to Thompson because he was Knocked out legit from a punch... Filip hrgovic never Knocked out Ituama even Abel Sanchez his trainer said it LMAO.... you're really delusional comparing it to price. If Moses itauma lost to a washed up dillian Whyte then that would've been the equivalent of price losing to a washed up Tony Thompson... Wlademir was dominating Ross Purity for most of the fight until he Punched himself out and lost due to Exhaustion so Ross Purity is better than Wlademir Klitschko using your dumb Logic LMAO....

Wizbit1013 · Sep 8, 2026 at 1:11 PM

Wasn't Thompson found to be on the juice after both wins too?

MaccaveliMacc · Sep 8, 2026 at 3:02 PM

Wizbit1013 said: ↑

Wasn't Thompson found to be on the juice after both wins too?
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Thompson was a good tricky fighter too.

MaccaveliMacc · Sep 8, 2026 at 3:05 PM

Redbeard7 said: ↑

Eddie Hearn claimed that AJ's DM's were hacked and that was why those derogatory comments were made. Do you believe that?

You trust all of them implicitly, which is why you are frequently quoting them as truth-telling authorities. "Frank said this, Eddie said that". As if Frank/Eddie isn't going to lie/spin to defend his man.

You trust entities which cover up mass violence against children. You trust individuals and organisations in boxing which work with drug kingpins. You are a brainless little sheep.
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You're projecting soooo much now, lol. Just because you believe your tinfoil hat pals in every dumb conspiracy theory, it doesn't mean everyone else believe anything. But keep exposing yourself, I love it. You're no longer a cover up, you're out in a open.

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