Is Jermell Charlo one of the most overrated champions ever?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NoChin, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:34 AM.


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  1. NoChin

    NoChin Sire Filip Hrgovic Full Member

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    Fled the division. He ran from Tszyu. The guy hasn't fought in 3 years God knows when he fought before that. He pissed away good boxing years but deep down he was running from the whoopin Tim would have put on him. Against Canelo he ran like a weasel offering nothing. One of the most insipid attempts in the ring I've ever seen. With Tszyu set to fight in December this clown will maybe fight the winner in march next year. Charlo lost to an average Tony Harrison too. I think he's a very limited boxer and he's ran from the undeniable truth.

    He's just not that good.
     
    NoChin, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:34 AM
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  2. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Tearing down Charlo while talking up Tim is odd... If Charlo is "just not that good", then Tim straight up sucks.
     
    MagnificentMatt, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:56 AM
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  3. NoChin

    NoChin Sire Filip Hrgovic Full Member

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    What's that saying about Charlo then? There's no question Charlo ducked him. I'm not talking up Tim at all. He's far from what he used to be. He would have beaten Charlo pre Fundora 1 though. Both Charlo and Tszyu are spent goods no matter if Tszyu beats Lara and Charlo beats Tszyu or Lara.
     
    NoChin, Sep 9, 2026 at 2:05 AM
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  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I think they may be of a similar level, with Charlo having the benefit of reigning over a weaker division for a spell, giving maybe an illusion that he was better than he was (being ranked in top 5 p4p at one point in time iirc)
     
    MagnificentMatt, Sep 9, 2026 at 2:09 AM
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  5. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t you have to be highly rated by everyone in the first place to be then considered very overrated? Personally I thought he was a good solid fighter but nothing exceptional.
     
    Ken Ashcroft, Sep 9, 2026 at 4:56 AM
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  6. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ever is reaching, there’s been some god awful belt holders in the past decade alone. Charlo was definitely a worthy world champion, they both were.

    I think they are both ranked correctly, just decent world level operators. Nothing more nothing less.
     
    Dagnaldinho, Sep 9, 2026 at 6:13 AM
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  7. GoodBot

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    Jermell unified the division, so its kinda odd to **** on him and not Jermall, who achieved a lot less and wasted as much of his prime as Jermell did.
     
    GoodBot, Sep 9, 2026 at 7:58 AM
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  8. lt. columbo

    lt. columbo Member Full Member

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    it's hard to gauge the charlo brothers. they don't fight often enough to really get an understanding of where they are in relation to their peers in the division.
     
    lt. columbo, Sep 9, 2026 at 9:35 AM
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  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree.
     
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  10. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The Houston hare is a disgrace, ducked Timmy and held the division hostage for as long as he could then cashes out against Canelo and fights like an absolute coward.
     
    MidniteProwler, Sep 9, 2026 at 5:56 PM
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  11. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He completely robbed Castano to achieve it though.
     
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  12. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Unified the division, avenged a draw with Castano (should have been a loss) by knockout and a decision loss by knockout; only lost when he got dragged up 2 weight classes in a fight against Canelo that shouldn't have been allowed to happen, he had no business at 168.

    I won't argue he's in the top 10 ever at 154, but there's definitely more overrated champions out there. That Castano KO win was excellent, based on that fight, I don't think he'd have ever struggled with Tim.
     
    TNSNO1878, Sep 9, 2026 at 6:21 PM
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  13. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I feel no one's really disputing all this.

    154 is the best division by far and this guy still hasn't been replaced as lineal champ. Him not measuring up is obvious.
     
    HistoryZero26, Sep 9, 2026 at 6:25 PM
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  14. MagnificentMatt

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    Judging by the eye test, he looks way better than Tim. He probably never beat anyone as good as the guys Tim lost to though.
     
    MagnificentMatt, Sep 9, 2026 at 7:41 PM
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  15. boxingexpert733

    boxingexpert733 Active Member Full Member

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    I think he was pretty good.
     
    boxingexpert733, Sep 9, 2026 at 8:11 PM
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