Zuffa Boxing: Ryan García Quesada vs. Conor Nigel Benn & Jai Tapu Opetaia vs. Noel Mikaelian RBR.

WhataRock · Sep 13, 2026 at 12:12 AM

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Your safe. The sharks are not going anywhere near the Grand final
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More of a chance than the Broncos lad.

A bit of New South in ya mouth.

KermitTheFrog · Sep 13, 2026 at 12:31 AM

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I am too, it's fascinating as hell, I wish there'd be a comprehensive study mainly focusing on complete birth charts instead of just sun signs. Because from doing the birth charts of a lot of fighters, there's clear correlation with their chart and how they fight. You can see it within certain signs.

For example, Mayweather is a Pisces, and Margarito is a Pisces. But they fight NOTHING alike. Now... look at their birth charts.

Mayweather's Chart
Sun Pisces
Moon Taurus
Mercury Aquarius
Venus Aries
Mars Aquarius

Margarito's Chart
Sun Pisces
Moon Cancer
Mercury Aries
Venus Aries
Mars Cancer

They're clearly very different charts!

This might freak you out!

So I had Grok analyze Mayweather's.
Describe the fighting temperament of a boxer with this chart? NO NAME GIVEN.

A boxer with this mix is not a straightforward brawler or pressure fighter.
The temperament is a hybrid: slippery and adaptive on the outside, stubborn and durable when it gets close, and mentally detached enough to invent mid-fight.

Core identity (Sun in Pisces)
The default mode is fluid rather than explosive. Pisces Suns in combat sports often fight like water—slipping, rolling, changing angles, and making opponents miss by inches. There is a natural feel for timing and rhythm, plus an almost psychic ability to read an opponent’s next move. Aggression is not the first instinct; evasion and adaptation are. This is the “float like a butterfly” quality: hard to pin down, hard to time, and capable of turning defense into sudden counters.

Emotional engine and chin (Moon in Taurus)
The Moon in Taurus supplies the opposite quality: the bull. Emotions stay even under fire. This fighter does not panic, does not get drawn into wild exchanges easily, and has a high pain threshold. Once committed, they become immovable. They can absorb punishment, grind through late rounds, and wait for the opening rather than forcing it. When finally pushed past the limit, the eruption is heavy and determined rather than frantic.

Mental approach (Mercury + Mars in Aquarius)
Double Aquarius on the thinking and fighting planets produces an unorthodox, slightly detached warrior. Strategy is intellectual and inventive. Combinations, footwork, and setups are often unexpected—angles others don’t use, feints that look like they come from another sport, or sudden shifts in rhythm. Mars in Aquarius is not the hottest, most primal Mars; it fights with principle and originality rather than raw bloodlust. The aggression is cool, calculated, and sometimes eccentric. This fighter can look almost clinical while still being dangerous.

Spark and initiative (Venus in Aries)
Venus in Aries injects the missing fire. It adds competitiveness, the thrill of the hunt, and a willingness to take the first step. This is where the fighter actually wants the fight—values the contest itself, likes the heat, and will step in rather than stay purely defensive. It gives a direct, sometimes impulsive streak that prevents the Pisces/Aquarius side from becoming too passive or overly cerebral.

Combined ring temperament

Patient and hard to rattle.

Durable and stubborn once the fight is inside.

Slippery and adaptive on the outside.

Mentally inventive—changes tactics without getting emotional.

Capable of sudden, committed bursts rather than constant swarming.

This is closer to a thinking counter-puncher or a slick, durable boxer-puncher than a pure swarmer or slugger. They can take a beating without losing composure, then make the opponent miss and pay for it with something the other guy didn’t see coming. The temperament is less “berserker” and more “I will outlast you and then surprise you."

So I had Grok analyze Margarito's. Also No Name Given.

This fighter’s temperament is watery, protective, and mood-driven, with sudden flashes of direct fire. It is less cool and strategic than a detached air-Mars type and more personal, reactive, and territorial.

Sun in Pisces
The core style remains fluid and evasive. The fighter slips, rolls, and changes levels rather than standing in the pocket trading. Intuition and timing are strong; they often sense an opponent’s intention a half-beat early. The default is not to force the fight but to dissolve pressure and reappear at a better angle.

Moon and Mars both in Cancer
This is the dominant emotional and physical engine. Cancer Mars fights like a crab or a parent defending its nest: it prefers to protect, absorb, and then pinch rather than charge first. Aggression rises when the fighter feels crowded, hurt, or disrespected. Once that switch flips, the output becomes clingy, relentless, and emotionally charged—hooks and uppercuts on the inside, holding, smothering, and refusing to give ground. The Cancer Moon adds mood swings in the ring. Confidence and output can fluctuate with how “safe” or threatened they feel. A good start or a landed shot can make them surge; a flush hit or hostile crowd can make them retreat into the shell or fight with extra desperation. Stamina is more emotional than mechanical: they can look tired and then explode when the fight becomes personal.

Mercury and Venus in Aries
These two placements cut through the water with heat and impatience. Thinking and desire are fast, blunt, and initiating. The fighter wants the fight to start now, talks or gestures with direct challenge, and can throw the first meaningful punch out of irritation or competitive spark. Combinations tend to be short, sharp, and committed rather than long and fancy. Venus in Aries also means they actually enjoy the contest and the heat of it; they do not stay purely defensive for long if they feel they have something to prove.

Combined ring temperament

Starts slippery and cautious (Pisces).

Becomes possessive and hard to shake once engaged or provoked (Cancer Moon + Mars).

Thinks and initiates in short, aggressive bursts (Aries Mercury/Venus).

Fights best when the exchange feels personal or when protecting space.

Can look passive or withdrawn one minute, then suddenly smothering and emotional the next.

This is closer to a counter-punching in-fighter or a “hurt me and I’ll make it ugly” type than a slick out-boxer or a cold technician. They absorb, wait for the emotional trigger, then try to make the opponent pay on the inside with pressure and feeling rather than volume or flash. The temperament is loyal to the fight once it becomes their fight, but it can also be inconsistent if the mood never fully ignites.
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Out of all the AI assistants you could’ve used, and you chose Grok

CST80 · Sep 13, 2026 at 12:39 AM

KermitTheFrog said: ↑

Out of all the AI assistants you could’ve used, and you chose Grok
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I usually use Chat GPT, which is far more accurate. But the rundowns are immense, and too much to post here without boring people. So I went with Grok for a change, for more succinct summaries.

CST80 · Sep 13, 2026 at 12:58 AM

Literally seconds after this fight was mentioned on the Fury-Makhmudov RBR.

CST80 said: ↑

Ryan Garcia murks Benn.
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CST80 · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:01 AM

guncho said: ↑

Wlad is pisces
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Wlad was born on March 25, 1976, which is solidly Aries.

CST80 · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:07 AM

Paulie calling out Kellerman, I love it!

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NoChin · Sep 13, 2026 at 2:03 AM

Teo got into a fight with security according to fight hype. Like ****.

ash234 · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:32 AM

Not sure if you American folk know but why were Zuffa ‘forced’ to take the Rocha v Ramirez fight?

Wizbit1013 · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:37 AM

I hate how Zuffa never mention what title is on the line and just world championship
Any org that allows their belt to be allowed to be defended on a Zuffa show is shortsighted indeed

MagnificentMatt · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:46 AM

Wizbit1013 said: ↑

I hate how Zuffa never mention what title is on the line and just world championship
Any org that allows their belt to be allowed to be defended on a Zuffa show is shortsighted indeed
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At this point anything that makes them lose their allure is good to me.

Do I really need to hear who is the super, bronze, platinum, jr, champion?

Its fine Zuffa doesn’t owe those organizations ****.

Its easy to look at Zuffa differently because it’s new and its run by Dana, but in reality the alphabet soup belts are a corrupt mill that play by and change their own rules constantly anyway.

Not positing that Zuffa is better, but more that it’s just another belt now, its just housed within a promotional company…. Which I didn’t like initially but now doesn’t bother me much. If the orgs wanna be part of that promotional companies shows they can, Zuffa is just not letting alphabet boys dictate things.

Wizbit1013 · Sep 13, 2026 at 1:53 AM

MagnificentMatt said: ↑

At this point anything that makes them lose their allure is good to me.

Do I really need to hear who is the super, bronze, platinum, jr, champion?

Its fine Zuffa doesn’t owe those organizations ****.

Its easy to look at Zuffa differently because it’s new and its run by Dana, but in reality the alphabet soup belts are a corrupt mill that play by and change their own rules constantly anyway.

Not positing that Zuffa is better, but more that it’s just another belt now, its just housed within a promotional company…. Which I didn’t like initially but now doesn’t bother me much. If the orgs wanna be part of that promotional companies shows they can, Zuffa is just not letting alphabet boys dictate things.
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I know what I'm getting from the orgs (not saying it's good but at least I know)

I honestly think TKO and Zuffa will make boxing a horrible product eventually if they get everything their own way

Ike · Sep 13, 2026 at 2:14 AM

I’m not surprised, Garcia is superior to Benn and we all saw that in the ring. Now, both Lopez and Haney would be very interesting opponents for Garcia (though I’d slightly prefer to see the rematch with Haney). In the co-main event Mikaeljan landed some good shots but Opetaia’s superiority, in terms of power and beyond, was clear (he was leading 79–73 on all three scorecards at the time of the stoppage).

CST80 · Sep 13, 2026 at 3:12 AM

I'm gifting this avatar to anyone who wants to take it!

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GoodBot · Sep 13, 2026 at 3:27 AM

they paid him $15 mil and are now mocking him, omg

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