Does Floyd deserve more credit for not being a big weight cutter?

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  1. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez went from being a chubby 135er to being a murderous puncher at 147, lean, ripped and with acne.

    He literally punched Alvarado across the ring
     
  2. Boxing GOAT

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    Floyd was also known to have injected lidocaine into his delicate hands. Thomas Hauser claimed there are sealed documents that he did so for at least three of his fights. While not banned by WADA it was banned by NSAC. The NASC would initially ban/suspend Lloyd Honeyghan for using it, then later changed it to a fine. More proof that NASC was in Floyd's back pocket.

    Fast foward to his illegal IV which was used to flush and mask his PED use. He also tested for low testosterone levels for the Ortiz and Guerrero fights, which is highly unusual for a world class athlete. Anti-doping experts note that an abnormally low T/E ratio can happen when someone introduces synthetic epitestosterone into their body to lower their overall ratio and trick drug tests looking for artificial testosterone.
     
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  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did I say anywhere I didn't think anyone doped? I was just asking for the so-called stats...
     
  4. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    On same note should he be given credit for win , when he did a catch weight against a smaller Marquez, and then not even making weight?
     
  5. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    Neither have been busted for peds. One was however caught with a IV in his vein.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Floyd deserves credit for taking his vitamins every night
     
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Itauma and Benn have more potential
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tank and Torrez might have more potential than all 3
     
  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Floyd was not a big weight cutter, but he also avoided any big and dangerous fighters in his division. Perfect example was his catch weight shenanigans against JMM whose previous fight was at 135.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Márquez (Sept 19, 2009, MGM Grand):

    Fine: the contract called for Mayweather and Marquez to weigh 144 or less, and sources reported Mayweather would be fined $600,000 — $300,000 per pound over. That $600,000 penalty (Floyd was 146) was added to Marquez's purse on top of his guaranteed $3.2 million, while Mayweather still earned his full $10 million.

    Fight was billed as welterweight (147 lb limit) but privately agreed at a 144 lb catchweight — Mayweather simply didn't make the lower number and paid the contractual penalty instead of forfeiting the bout.

    He could have fought Margarito or Paul Williams and been destroyed.