To those who said Khan was going to be better than Hamed...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Sep 8, 2008.


  1. DINAMITA

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    And there were PLENTY people saying this, maybe not in the US but they certainly were here in Britain (not that they will admit it now) :

    Khan will never be as good as Hamed was.

    Hamed didn't have a great chin, but it was stronger than Khan's, and he had more grit and resilience. He was more elusive which meant he could avoid punches better, and he had better punch-power.

    Hamed lost the 1st time he fought excellent opposition, but even though I am not a fan of his at all, he did have enough power and speed to enable him to have a successful career.

    Khan was blown away the 1st time he fought a fellow up n comer. He will never be as good as Hamed, and I don't even support those who say Hamed is HOF class or was a 'great' fighter.

    Khan has been exposed as another Fraudley (though obviously he has more talent and ability than Fraudley himself).
     
  2. T-97

    T-97 New Member Full Member

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    Naseems chin was fine imo, It was his awkward style that meant he was caught off balance and dropped. Khan clearly has an aweful chin, and right now no defense to protect it. He needs to sort it out if he wants to be champ, He won't ever be as good as Hamed imo, And I never thought he would be.
     
  3. Kerosene

    Kerosene I am the Third Revelation Full Member

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    I never heard that said.

    I always thought the comparision was stupid anyway. OTher than the fact their both asian what exactly did they have in common?

    Style - no, personality - no, for his weight Hamed was a bigger puncher too.

    I think there nothing wrong with Hamed's chin either, if there was he couldnt have gotten away with the style of boxing he used for so long, so successfully, and if he did have a substandard chin Barrera would have KO'd him. I rate his chin slightly above average.
     
  4. TFFP

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    Hamed's chin was good.
     
  5. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Hamed's chin wasn't the problem as much as his balance was I think. Kind of similar to trinidad that way.
     
  6. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Hamed's chin wasn't the problem as much as his balance was I think. Kind of similar to trinidad that way.
     
  7. thegreatest1982

    thegreatest1982 New Member Full Member

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    I think a lot of people made that comparison because of the ethnicity of both fighters - and it was only made by casual boxing fans - real fans of the sport know/knew that they are completely different fighters.

    I also think Khan tries to emulate Naz's style in that he beleives he has got the reflexes and the power to get the other guy outta there - he obviously hasnt.

    ps Naz had a decent chin - you cant compare the two.
     
  8. Kerosene

    Kerosene I am the Third Revelation Full Member

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    I dont see it, I tihnk he just has a shitty defence.
     
  9. thegreatest1982

    thegreatest1982 New Member Full Member

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    True, but i dont mean Naz's style more his ethos - Khan should fight to his strengths and deffo learn to fight on the back foot.
     
  10. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Ive never heard anyone say that.... but yeah maybe over there. Khan never fought anybody at the top, he had a long ways to go to get there. Hamed is already proven and had beaten champions.


    Actually Darchiyan reminded me a lot of Naz. They look alike in the face, theyre both arrogant small guys with great power and an awkward style. I wanted to see Darchinyan move up and fight some of the bigger guys. 118 122 but its clear he would be crushed
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't remember anyone saying this...
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    It isn't necessarily a comparison in styles, Hamed was a hugely popular Asian-British boxer with an explosive style who started his career with a fanfare and was destined for great things. Khan was a hugely popular Asian-British boxer with an explosive style who started his career with a fanfare and was destined for great things. It's only natural to speculate whether Khan was going to be as good as his predecessor. If a great young Welsh or Mancunian prospect was KO'ing people on the road to a world title shot, people would remark whether they thought the guy had the potential to be as good as Calzaghe or Hatton, it's natural and it happens.

    There seemed to be a considerable section of British boxing fans who thought Khan was like Hamed but with the flaws eradicated- he has speed and power like the Prince but had a tighter style that would allow him to operate safely against world-class opposition once he gained the necessary experience and training camp to cut out mistakes like getting dropped by guys like Limond.

    And where did I say there was anything wrong with Hamed's chin?? I think he had an average chin, way better than Khan's, I don't think I implied anything other than that.
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    Isn't the Middle East part of Asia? If it isn't, then is it part of Europe or Africa? Which continent is it part of?
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    I think you are thinking of Kevin Kelley, who put Naz down 3 times. Tom "Boom Boom" Johnson never put Naz down at all.

    However, I don't see how getting put down 3 or 4 times in 1 fight is evidence of a good chin - surely that's the opposite?? Look at Toney and Hopkins - how many times have they been put down in their careers? That is evidence of a good chin. Getting put down 4 times and getting up is evidence of a good heart and bravery, not a good chin.

    Hamed was floored by guys like Daniel Alicea and Augie Sanchez (though the ref wrongly didn't count the legitimate Sanchez KD), he did not have a 'very strong' chin as he could be floored by mediocre fighters and punchers.
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    Cheers mate, I was unaware that African nations were included in the Middle East, it's weird the things you learn on esb!! :good