Where would Vitlai Klitschko’s comeback rate if he defeats Sam Peter?

8, mainly because Peter is infact rubbish.

 

He had a torn rotator cuff which is a very painfull injury that may have kept him out of boxing if he continued.

 

More importantly, will those that have spent literally years here on ESB deriding Peter as a slow, clumsy, unskilled cheating plodder with a questionable chin have the bare-faced cheek to claim it as a legendary win for Vitali if he bowls him over?

There were certainly a few lining up to do just that if Maskaev had pulled off the win.

 

It's an 8. Peter doesn't have a "Legacy" for Vitali to overcome, the jury is still out on Sam Peter.

Sam is strong, a bit limited and perhaps vulnerable (who isn't?!)
Vitali is strong, ring-rusty and perhaps suffering from wear and tear

It's the potential flaws of these two men that makes this an interesting fight.

"Old" Vitali could destroy Peter if his reflexes and power and hunger are still there (well, Power is the last to go!). Peter could get a (T)KO if Vitali is rusty, tentative or gets injured in the ring. Maybe 4 years away has hurt his punch resistance (or desire to eat a big glove sandwich).

Technically, Vitali has more to gain than Peter. If Vitali loses people will say:

He was too old, he was too rusty, too injured, etc.,

I don't think Peter would get a huge amount of credit for a win.

It should be an exciting fight and (hopefully) what boxing needs -- a couple of big guys not afraid to throw punches!

 

10 no matter how should he be able to do it. Vitali plays all or nothing and he should have a strong hand to bet everything on one move... If he comes to outmaneuvre and outland Peter, then he also proves that he can fight pure power and brute strength with intelligence and a technical edge and if knocks him out, he becomes the most dangerous puncher in the division once again... But if he fails to do it, he will be remembered just for pure theoretical reasons and by his fan club.

 

Remember though that he was trying to promote the fight. Doesn't mean he doesn't believe it, but if he wasn't scheduled to fight Peter, he might be more objective.

 

It's normally the Vitali Klitschko fans who are saying that if Vitali is 60/70/80% of what he was he'll still win.

What about the non-fans, who aren't so impressed with Vitali Klitschko? For you guys, would a 100%, pre-layoff Vitali be the favorite to win against Samuel? (or do you think Peter could beat any version of Vitali?)

For the record, I am a Klitschko fan, but I'm not too confident that he can overcome the layoff - so I gave it a 9. I think coming back from such a long period would be darn impressive.

 

Sorry fanboy, but it's not gonna be impressive AT ALL when Vitali kills Peter. I've bet 100 bucks on it (I'm not a huge gambler but if I were I'd bet more).

Don't think we didn't notice the Vitali avatar of yours. And one can see the bias in your analysis easily. 1) You don't mention that Foreman was FORTY FIVE which is very significant being that Vitali is 37. 2) None of the "others" you mention had the tremendous physical advantages (size, reach, power) that Vitali will have. 3) You mention Foreman needed the "perfect match" to get his victory but fail to mention that this is the perfect match for Vitali as well. Just look how ****ing CONFIDENT you are that Vitali is gonna win. Why? B/c it's obvious to you and as a fan, you have made this post as pure propaganda to make it seem now, beforehand, that Vitali will be over-coming huge odds based on the Red Herring's you've made regarding historical paralells.

At 37 years old with a lifetime of fighting experience and plenty of time to prepare for the fight, defeating Peter won't be impressive at all. Even with a shitload of ring rust all Vitali has to do is fight the least bit intelligently, utilizing his reach and physical size and Peter won't be able to do ****. You ALREADY KNOW THIS and this thread is just vulgar propaganda. Don't respond with "I don't know who will win this fight!" because everyone on this board will see right through that as yet another lie. You're preparing for a celebration already, and rightfully so. Nothing wrong with that but please try to be *honest* about it, and take the man's dick out of your mouth.

OH **** YOU JUST GOT PWNED!!!!!11ONE!! :hi:

 

Well, it would be a miracle but I do not see it happen. Inactivity will severely hurt Vital in this one. But then again you never know.

 

How is this the "perfect" match for Vitali? It's a good one in that he's not fighting the tallest or most skilled heavyweight. But the verdict is still out on Sam's chin. The ear injury is a plausible excuse for the knockdowns versus McCline (not sure I believe it, but it is plausible).

In that case, he's fighting a determined, agressive, but crude opponent who has never been stopped, and has shown great durability. From what we know of Peter, there's no guarantee that Vitali is capable of stopping him.

If, however, the ear injury is just an excuse, and the McCline fight demonstrates how to hurt Peter, then Vitali might be in for an easier time.

 

damn I wanted to vote 8!

 

Peter is not a big puncher. His KO record against decent fighters backs this up. He has KOed nobody but Class C & D fighters that had Glass Jaws to begin with.

 

I'm always found that it's best to examine a person's statements and hold them to it...you don't make excuses for why somebody said something.

Sure he wants people to watch the fight...but he could have just as easily said that something that doesn't call Sam one of the TWO biggest punchers of modern times. When you factor in that Sammy KD his lil bro three times, you must take him at face value. Otherwise call him the liar he is...it's one or the other. It's not OK to be full of **** when you have something to sell.

He respects Sam's power...and LennoxGoat thinks VITKLIT is an idiot based on Vitali's comments.

 

The ear injury is almost certainly bull****, so I'm treating it as such. While you're not sure you believe it, I view it as standard propaganda. When something "bad" happens to any fighter, generally speaking, there is always some excuse for it.

Furthermore, the fight is perfect for VitKlit b/c: 1) Peter is there to be hit and VitKlit's fist has about 150lbs of ARM behind it. 2) Peter does not have great movement, and thus he is normally the one using his size/power to his advantage. Now what's he gonna do, stand in front of Vitali and try to KO him? :nono