Is David HAYE an ALL TIME Top 5 Cruiser...???

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Probably not. The fact that it's even up for consideration says enough about the division's poor history though.
     
  2. RocK24

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    You are correct! I think he ducked Cunningham. He said he cleaned up the division but he forgot the corner of the room where Cunningham and Bell stood. So if he fought those fighters I may have an opionion. Holyfield is #1 alltime cruiser.
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

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    Enzo said he is still better than Haye
     
  4. SAS2

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    no. he is far from it. he didn't spend enough time at cruiser and never avenged his ko loss.
     
  5. Axe

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    Toney's win over Jirov > Haye's CW reign.

    Mormeck (prime), Holyfield, and Gomez all belong above Haye IMO. A few others, one example being O'Neil Bell, would certainly be arguable.
     
  6. BENNY BLANCO

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    Good post TFFP,another fighter you could mention is Yaqui Lopez but I'm not so sure how long he campaigned at cruiserweight, I know he was a lightheavy for some time in his career.
     
  7. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, he didn't accomplish much and got beat by an average fighter.
     
  8. Farmboxer

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    Haye has diarrhea of the mouth.
     
  9. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    F*ck off...don't just spam the board, if you want to come in here answer the question, or say you don't know.
     
  10. Cruiser1

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    Haye should crack the top 5. Personally, I think unifying guarantees you a spot in the top 5 because the belts were fractured for so long. Holyfield and Gomez are locks at 1 and 2, Mormeck and Haye both unified so you can throw them in there and regardless of his level of opposition, DeLeon was a 4-time WBC champion so it would be pretty hard not to include him although a case can be made for a handful of other fighters. Jirov, Norris, Qawi, or perhaps Nelson.

    Haye won belts off of 2 different fighters so that should safely put him in the top 5. I know it's the quality of the opposition but I'm big on champions beating other champions.
     
  11. JM22

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    Hell no is this a joke:lol:
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Talk is cheap and so is Haye.
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    imo what he achieves at HW will have a slight bearing on his status as a CW and might settle him in there
     
  14. Cruiser1

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    What Haye does at heavyweight has absolutely no bearing on what he accomplished as a cruiserweight. Where is the correlation?


    :ahhhh
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    because on top of what he accomplishes i also factor in how good he was at CW. What Haye accomplishes at HW can give a good idea of how good Haye really was as a CW.