haye and nate do read the forums your right, haye was on here a few weeks ago and got mad respect for it
Ding was a decent bloke but the "Ding vs. Tyson" nuthugging threads that were going around at the time were a serious embarasment.
i doubt that they have time or want to hear our critique of them, if so then im ashamed for boxers who are that insecure about their own talents