Fighters REAL records

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dark Sider, Sep 21, 2008.


  1. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What would a fighter's record look like if you removed the Eric Crumble and Reggie Stricklands from it? You know, the guys paid to lose?

    From 50-0 a guy might only really be 13-0 against good opposition.
     
  2. tylerrcurtis

    tylerrcurtis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    im saying that a 50-0 moves to about 13 to 15 wins...its really hard to be so good that you win against good opposition early in your career and then maintain it for a long time
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    It's normal to fight regular opponents for new professionals, I mean they might be fighting guys that sound like they're supposed to lose but those guys are the ones in their leagues being new in the professional ranks.

    Even in between fights or losses tune-ups or easy targets are very normal, more like warm-ups and stay active fights before bigger ones. The training camps these guys go through for major fights are INSANE and can't be gone through for every single fight, it eventually breaks the fighter down with all the pressure put on him and he ends up losing.
     
  4. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good points...obviously an 0-0 or 5-0 fighter can't face an Olympian or title holder.

    But the record of most top fighters just seems to be their title fights & super fights.
     
  5. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you wanna say that look at Calzaghes current record

    Right now he is 45-0

    The fights that actually meant anything are:

    Eubank
    Lacy
    Kessler
    Hopkins

    So does that make him 4-0 then?

    All his other victories were either build ups to world title or meaningless defenses against nobodies in Wales
     
  6. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robin Reid
    Mario Veit
    Charles Brewer

    ^All good wins against top-flite opposition. A few more ex-champs in there.
     
  7. joker3491

    joker3491 Private Full Member

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    true in every sense of the word........hear that mayweather and calslappy fans?
     
  8. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So he is 7-0? Some can argue the Hopkins win and some may say Eubank was past his best rah rah rah we can say Calzaghe has between 5-7 good wins in his career
     
  9. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree with the last part not the first but... When you have unified dosnt mean youve beaten all the top opponents. You dont have to be the best to own a belt
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe held all the belts at 168.
     
  11. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After beating Lacy and Kessler. That we give him credit for, but what did he do before then?
     
  12. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What did Calzaghe do at 2 years of age? What will he be doing at 80 years of age?

    He TRIED to unify with Sven Ottke, and faced every name he could get. TRIED to get Bernard Hopkins, but B-Hop wouldn't come on over.

    So he had to get old just like B-Hop before Trinidad fight.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Every fighter's record is padded with stiffs early in their career, almost without exception. So it's a wash, basically.

    Now, when they're into the heart of their career's and still fighting guys with sub-.500 records, that's another matter.
     
  14. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eubank was done and lost his next couple of fights. Lacy I wipe my ass with that one. Kessler who knowS how good this guy really is? He lost to BHOP, in reality Joe has yet to win a fight as far as Im CONCERNED
     
  15. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    The Calzaghe bashing is unreal on this board. For 2 years I felt that Mikkel Kessler was the embodiment of the end of Joe's title reign. I couldn't even formulate a gameplan in my mind that would work in Joe's favor cuz Kessler had basically looked the part of a flawless fighter up until that point. I never even thought that the 2 guys would get in the ring together. What Calzaghe did that night was remarkable. He found a different gear (the older fighter who already fought like a whirlwind - imagine that) and upped the pressure on a guy who had never really felt any pressure. He took him out of his comfort zone and mixed in a tremendous body attack with his trademark flurries. Even had Kessler hurt (unfathomable to me at the time) before the referee intervened. What I'm trying to say is that I would never doubt Calzaghe again after that night. What Kessler accomplishes from this point on stands to be seen but I was firm in my opinion that he was Calzaghe's biggest threat at 168 and was quite vocal about the possibility of ducking being involved. Calzaghe answered all my questions in one night and did so by putting forth one of the best performances in UK boxing history. For that he is impervious to criticism, at least on my end. I was a critic for a long time cuz of the Salems and the Ashiras, etc. but Calzaghe went out and proved me wrong.