if calzaghe was an american???

He should be more respected but consider if he was to get his credits on american soil and reach this particular point of his pro career, 20-plus defenses of a SMW title, unification fights and a LHWT title... I don't think so.

 

what a ridiculous viewpoint . so if calzaghe would have fought mexicans, who traditionally don't fight as high as SM , he would have got battered ?
there's a reason there haven't been many mexicans at the higher weight classes, the big ones aint any good .in fact, do you get big mexicans?

 

Thats a bit of a contradiction in itself, because they are there its just they aren't very good. Obviously they tear it up in the lower weights though.

 

God I hate these ridiculously flawed arguments. I guess Pacquiao is rated #1 because he's American, right?

 

that mohammed ali chap was lucky there were no mexican heavyweights around back in the sixties, he wouldn't have got anywhere .

 

Do you even read this stuff before you press post?

Hopkins fought a 'prime Tarver' yadda yadda, and that's a challenge, but then you somehow fail to notice that Calzaghe then moved up to beat that same Hopkins?

 

Hopkins was 41 years old when he fought Tarver, he met Calzaghe two years later as a 43 year old with only one fight against Winky Wright a year before fighting Calzaghe.

 

And?

 

I remember reading up on the situation but remember hearing it fell through b/c Warran didn't feel that they needed to come to the US. Which IMO Joe did...if he didn't he wouldn't have made the trek across the pond so late in his career.

 

Scar means that he wasn't "that same Hopkins" as u stated.

 

False.

My #1 and #2 P4P fighters are from the Phillipines and Mexico, Calzaghe not being American has nothing to do with his ranking, and it's a bull**** argument.

 

I quite frankly couldn't care less who you respect. I'm telling it the way it is and I'm sorry if you don't like it. This might amaze you but hype surrounding an up and coming fighter is not an exclusively European (nor any other part of the world) thing, it goes on everywhere including the good awl USA (witness just about every half decent US heavyweight since Tyson and Holyfield for an example - Michael Grant anyone?). I don't know why you're bringing Neary up, but yeah he was one who ultimately didn't go as far as maybe some people felt he could. It happens.

Most of this second paragraph is just ranting and drivel, an impressive attempt at twisting and putting words into people's mouths. As for going to watch the fights, maybe a cultural difference. Over here, people are proper fans, i.e. will go and watch fighters when they are on the way up and continue to watch them if they happen to lose a couple, rather than getting on their jock when they're the flavour of the month and dropping them like hot cakes when they happen to lose.

As for Tszyu, I am a big fan of his as a fighter but if you can tell me what he accomplished in his career that Calzaghe didn't I will be impressed. The only major difference I can see is that Calzaghe fought in Europe, hence as far as most stateside are concerned his fights never took place!

 

True not many big Mexicans to begin with so I would imagine the not many will do well however if their were Mexican fighters at that weight class who fought like real Mexicans like Margarito, Chavez, Barrera, or Morales who rely on stamina, chin, and pressure to win their fights Joe would have not been undefeated. I hope I cleared that up for you.

 

If their was a Margarito(typical Mexican fighter) in that weight class Joe would have lost to him.

 

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