Ken Norton v. Rocky Marciano

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  1. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    As history has proven, Kenny did not match up well with murderous bombers (Cooney, Shavers, Foreman).

    As history has also proven, Marciano was a murderous puncher.

    However, Norton has an "awkward" style, and significant advantages in height and weight, and could throw a decent punch of his own.

    Who takes it?

    (And apologies if this has been done before.)
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Marciano ,Norton's weakness was exposed if you could back him up,he had stiff legs and dragged his right foot.Marciano would back him up,into the path of a Suzie Q right hand and it would be "goodnight Nurse " for Kenny.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    People will think I'm nuts but I like Norton ... way too big for Marciano ...
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Yes, your NUTS.:D
     
  5. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano. Norton was a terrific fighter, but I've seen him get starched one too many times to think he could survive Marciano's bombs.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Norton outboxes Marciano early, but Rocky breaks him down for a late KO12
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Excepting certain special occasions there's no place for racial comments and accusations in here. We're mostly a whole lot better than that. I'd suggest you take them elsewhere where they will be much more appreciated. Basically accusing anyone who takes Norton in here of being racist would be close to banworthy i'd reckon.
     
  8. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    I'd give it to Marciano. He punched really hard, and he would pressure Norton relentless. Norton wouldn't be able to adjust.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Although, I would probably pick the Rock here, I would like to play devil's advocate for a moment.

    While Norton certainly fell victom to big punchers, we have to consider styles, and frankly I can't think of any swarmer whom Norton ever faced. He did however spar regularly with Joe Frazier, as they were under the same management, and apparently the reports say that Frazier got the better of him on most occasions. The problem here, is that Frazier knew Ken like no other fighter did, and he was further along in his career than Norton when they were still working together, so I don't know if I'd use this as a guage.

    Both Marciano and Norton had ample experience fighting in long range wars that extended anywhere from 10 - 15 rounds. Ken however, did fight during an era where fighters were generally bigger, stronger, and perhaps even faster. Not to mention, the 1970's were afterall, revered by many as the golden era of the division ( for whatever heresay is worth. )

    In either case, I think this would be a very tough battle for both men. I don't see an early nor easy verdict here. Norton's youth, style and conditioning, would be an excellent match for Marciano's power, toughness, stamina and swarming stance.

    The Rock has to be the favorite, but he'd have a tough test on his hands, and make no mistake about it, an upset is not entirely out of the question...
     
  10. Yogi

    Yogi Dedicated champion Full Member

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    I agree but I think Rocky would get in done in about 8-9 rounds.
     
  11. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it'd be a really good fight until Norton got knocked out.
     
  12. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano KO 9.
     
  13. Arka

    Arka New Member Full Member

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    It seems an easy enough proposition. Norton failed abysmally against the big punchers-Foreman,Shavers and Cooney.But to my mind their power was more of the bludgeoning type,which backed Norton up.Marciano's punches had more torque in them.
    BTW is there any film of Norton and Frazier sparring?
     
  14. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    Norton's awkward style would cause Marciano a bit of discomfort in the early rounds, but the Rock's relentless onslaught would break Norton down in the late stages. Marciano KO 11.
     
  15. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can someone please ban this account? I'm tired of this bull****.


    In any event, maybe Norton had trouble with big punchers, but I think he'd be pretty competitive with Marciano, especially the Marciano who evolved into a volume puncher.
    Norton has the skills to give Rocky trouble, and he has the required size/strength to handle a rough, physical fight.
    My concern is if Marciano does start to back him up, I don't think Kenny can adjust enough for him to still be competitive. If he can stand his ground with Marciano, then I say it's a very close fight.
    I'd favour Marciano but not by much. Very tough matchup for both men.